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  • #11
    Originally posted by TheGreatA View Post
    Marvin Hart
    Jim Braddock
    Leon Spinks

    Briggs & Rahman (linear).

    Most of the titlists post-1980's if they count.

    I believe Spinks lost his teeth when he was headbutted in sparring.
    o c'mon greatA, braddock was the man,
    gave us one of the biggest upsets in boxing history.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Demise View Post
      John Ruiz

      Originally posted by capt_sam View Post
      Worst on a P4P basis, or worst in a head to head sense against all other legit title holders?

      Ruiz is pretty bad.

      Leon Spinks is hard to top.
      I get tired of hearing Ruiz's name whenever this subject is brought up. He sucks to watch, but was actually very effective and fought and beat plenty of the top names during his era.

      To many people judge Ruiz on his style and not on his actual accomplishments.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by veteran420 View Post
          Now that is a throw back fighter right there. All the way from the stone age!

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            I get tired of hearing Ruiz's name whenever this subject is brought up. He sucks to watch, but was actually very effective and fought and beat plenty of the top names during his era.

            To many people judge Ruiz on his style and not on his actual accomplishments.
            One thing against Ruiz is that he lost the title twice to former Middleweight Champions. He did defeat Rahman and Holyfield, and was God awful to watch. His losses to Toney and Jones were one-sided and dreadful

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            • #16
              Valuev's the worst P4P, without a doubt.. Can't stand watching him..

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              • #17
                Primo Carnera by far.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by 1SILVA View Post
                  One thing against Ruiz is that he lost the title twice to former Middleweight Champions. He did defeat Rahman and Holyfield, and was God awful to watch. His losses to Toney and Jones were one-sided and dreadful
                  At the same time, both have tested positive for steroids.

                  Im not saying they couldn't beat Ruiz with their natural talent alone, both are top 100 all time p4p fighters in my opinion. Ruiz is far from the worst champion, but he is far from the best too.

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                  • #19
                    Primo Carnera(sp).....Hands down

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by St Lion View Post
                      johansson never had any love for boxing and while traning for patterson in the usa and his girlfirend with him!
                      Maybe so but that doesn't make him the worst. wins over Floyd Patterson, Eddie Machen, Henry Cooper, Brian London, Dick Richardson, Joe Erskine, Joe Bygraves and Archie McBride was decent better than Leon or Valuev's resume.

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