Comments Thread For: Wilder: Hearn Treated Ortiz Like Clown, All Unfulfilled Promises

[aboutfkntime]

When you are the top guy then shots get thrown at you. It happened with Mayweather, it happens with Joshua.. No difference, all road leads to Anthony Joshua. He has the best resume at HW and he offers the biggest payday for everyone else. So when you are sitting at the throne you can expect peasants to talk about you all the time, your name promotes their name.

1) that is no reason to avoid difficult fights like Ortiz/Wilder
2) not if Wilder beats Fury

[aboutfkntime]

Look, I am not going to spend a lot of time trying to convince folks who should know better.

Believe what makes you feel better, but dont ever act like no one tried to tell you the truth.

Y'all are pitiful...

this is absurd

[Mrbamladen]

When did acting like a little girl, become the way to act in heavyweight boxing? Now both Ortiz and Wilder are acting like little b!tches. They think just because Parker talked his way into a fight, they can. Ortiz is no boogeyman, he's just an old fighter that wasted a lot of years not fighting anyone of note. Wilder is no all time great. He's just a guy who has fought 10 years without stepping up until now. Wilder is running his mouth about AJ, but won't sign the contract sitting on his living room table. Hearn gave Ortiz 2 or 3 fights to build him up in the UK for a clash with AJ but Ortiz stank the place out so bad, they let him go. People will say the AJ is ducking Wilder but you can't duck a guy who won't sign to fight you hahahahah, idiots. And Ortiz's last two guys are ranked 170th and now 62nd. Hardly world beaters hahah. But I guess it's OK for him to talk ***** about a guy who has fought 4 of the top ten in the world right now??? You idiots are shameless

Parker actually got what he wanted because Hearn desperately needed him to avoid wilder. Let's not forget wilder called out aj after knocking out stiverne and Showtime wanted to make wilder vs aj after aj beat takam. Let's not forget that Hearn offered Parker a flat fee but team Parker let him know if they didn't get a percentage they would fight Browne, Jennings, and ruiz again on ESPN with arum. All of a sudden......he gets the fight and percentage. He was actually the way out for aj to avoid wilder. As for Ortiz, he dropped a guy 6 times who spent the night running from him, and was the first to tko Allen after giving him a boxing lesson for 7 rounds. What did he not do.....moonwalk and dance as he was doing it???? Flex his muscles at the crowd between rounds??? What exactly was so bad about his fight with allen??? By the way, his last fight was against a guy who was just given a title shot against the same Parker you guys now rate so highly and he went 12 rounds with him. Ortiz knocked him out in 2.

[aboutfkntime]

Parker actually got what he wanted because Hearn desperately needed him to avoid wilder. Let's not forget wilder called out aj after knocking out stiverne and Showtime wanted to make wilder vs aj after aj beat takam. Let's not forget that Hearn offered Parker a flat fee but team Parker let him know if they didn't get a percentage they would fight Browne, Jennings, and ruiz again on ESPN with arum. All of a sudden......he gets the fight and percentage. He was actually the way out for aj to avoid wilder. As for Ortiz, he dropped a guy 6 times who spent the night running from him, and was the first to tko Allen after giving him a boxing lesson for 7 rounds. What did he not do.....moonwalk and dance as he was doing it???? Flex his muscles at the crowd between rounds??? What exactly was so bad about his fight with allen??? By the way, his last fight was against a guy who was just given a title shot against the same Parker you guys now rate so highly and he went 12 rounds with him. Ortiz knocked him out in 2.

that is the point

they split the pot fairly with Parker, and low-balled Wilder..... because they actually wanted to fight Parker..... 32.5% > 15mil

just like Golovkin with Saunders/Brook

they split the pot fairly with Brook, and low-balled Saunders..... because Golovkin actually wanted to fight Brook..... 4.5mil > 1.5mil

that is clearly obvious, there is nothing difficult about that lol

[Ray*]

Just an absurd amount of spin and misinformation.

Their resumes are evidence of one of them starting as an unknown while the other debuted with historical fanfare.

The details of how Joshua's fights came to be do not reflect a Joshua looking to make great fights but rather great fights coming to Joshua. Whyte, Martin, Wlad, Parker, and Povetkin is a great resume, bar none the best, but Whyte, Martin, Wlad, Parker, and Sasha all pursued Joshua not the other way around.

Shelly was Wlad's manager. Why isn't this worded as Wilder called Wlad out, Wlad said Wilder needs to get more fights, and the manager they shared agreed with Wlad? That is what happened. If I was as propagandist as you I'd claim Wlad and Wlad's manager ducked ducked Wilder publicly.

Woulda coulda shoulda. Excuses from lame “Boxing fan”

[koolkc107]

this is absurd

Yep.

And very, very sad.

[SUBZER0ED]

So let me get this straight, if Wilder beats Fury, a non-belt holder who has been out of action for three years, he becomes the best HW in the division? Just no. You want to be the best HW, beat the guy who has all of the other belts and stop talking nonsense and stop roadblocking.

Ortiz, you gave Wilder a good run for his money. Just because he beat you, doesn't mean you now must suckle his sack. You want Joshua? Call him out directly and stop whining about what you were "promised". You sound like Amir Khan.

[Ray*]

1) that is no reason to avoid difficult fights like Ortiz/Wilder
2) not if Wilder beats Fury

(1) No one avoid Ortiz or Wilder
(2) Even if Wilder beats this version of Fury.

[koolkc107]

The only two folks in here right now even remotely concerned with the truth.

Props to both of you!

Parker actually got what he wanted because Hearn desperately needed him to avoid wilder. Let's not forget wilder called out aj after knocking out stiverne and Showtime wanted to make wilder vs aj after aj beat takam. Let's not forget that Hearn offered Parker a flat fee but team Parker let him know if they didn't get a percentage they would fight Browne, Jennings, and ruiz again on ESPN with arum. All of a sudden......he gets the fight and percentage. He was actually the way out for aj to avoid wilder. As for Ortiz, he dropped a guy 6 times who spent the night running from him, and was the first to tko Allen after giving him a boxing lesson for 7 rounds. What did he not do.....moonwalk and dance as he was doing it???? Flex his muscles at the crowd between rounds??? What exactly was so bad about his fight with allen??? By the way, his last fight was against a guy who was just given a title shot against the same Parker you guys now rate so highly and he went 12 rounds with him. Ortiz knocked him out in 2.

that is the point

they split the pot fairly with Parker, and low-balled Wilder..... because they actually wanted to fight Parker..... 32.5% > 15mil

just like Golovkin with Saunders/Brook

they split the pot fairly with Brook, and low-balled Saunders..... because Golovkin actually wanted to fight Brook..... 4.5mil > 1.5mil

that is clearly obvious, there is nothing difficult about that lol

[Ray*]

So let me get this straight, if Wilder beats Fury, a non-belt holder who has been out of action for three years, he becomes the best HW in the division? Just no.

Yeah lol, they want to elevate Wilder to that position. It’s not given, it has to be earned. Those are “Boxing” fans for you. The guy that said “It’s not about the financials” but when offered 5 times his normal payday then it became about the “Financials” and it became a slave contract. So if those offers were “slave contracts” what was he on before he ducked the AJ paydays?