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View Poll Results: How could Wilder & Joshua start boxing at age of 20 & be the Best HW's in the World?
It's superrior Afro Genetics Baby! 6 22.22%
Terrible era of HW division = Lack of competition 15 55.56%
Unfortunately HW Boxing doesn't require Skils 4 14.81%
They are just on some PEDS & JUICE! 2 7.41%
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:42 PM #31
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That's US, what's the explanation world wide?
international HW have mostly been ass historically. look at the top 50 hw of all time. almost all of them come from where?
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:04 PM #32
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international HW have mostly been ass historically. look at the top 50 hw of all time. almost all of them come from where?
Germany, Ukraine and England?
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:18 PM #33
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:21 PM #34
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I don't see any point to the poll. Starting boxing at 18 to 20 years old is plenty young enough for a boxer to reach his potential while he is still in his prime .Aj is in his late 20s so he has been a boxer for 10 years or so. Wilder is in his early 30s so he has been a boxer for 13 or more years. That's enough time for a determine boxer to reach any potential he has. Hopkins was in prison and didn't turn pro until age 30 when he got out of prison and look at his accomplishments. If AJ and Wilder had started boxing when they were 12 years old they would probably be better but not that much better. Boxing isn't rocket science and it doesn't take 20 years to learn.
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:30 PM #35
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Putting it out there, Ali wouldnt be that skilled if he boxed exactly how he boxed at HW against LWs.

Better than maybe all other HWs? Sure. But he wasnt that skilled in comparison to greats in lower classes.
I disagree. If he was a natural welter, he would be just like sugar Ray Leonard
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:33 PM #36
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I disagree. If he was a natural welter, he would be just like sugar Ray Leonard
SRL's inside fighting and general technique are leagues ahead of Ali.

Ali couldnt throw a proper uppercut to save his life.

Ali was hampered by the small fact that he was 200lbs+
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Muhammad Ali
Don't think so
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Why do Wilder fans brag about his late start and the fact he got Olympic Bronze yet they don't acknowledge Joshua's almost equally late start and Olympic Gold and the fact he won a title in far less fights, beat a ranked opponent in less fights, unified a title in far less fights and defeated an elite opponent in far less fights?
Becuase Wilder lacks boxing skills and they are trying to make excuses for that.
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Don't think so
If both were natural Middleweights who would win?
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Foreman also started late.

Ali was 12 when they stole his bike, was champion 9 years later.

Tyson was 13 and he was champion at 20.
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