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Old 12-06-2018, 01:54 PM #21
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Yeah 213 for Ustinov but he kicked his ass!!!!! He gave up 40lbs to Bakole & took his best shots & scored the late KO. Bakole is a prospect & Ustinov is 41 so I do take that into consideration but so far so good.
Yeah.. like you say Ustinov is over the hill and never really had much apart from his size anyway (though his size was a test in itself)and Bakole hadn't really been tested. Honestly much of why I think Hunter is a quality fighter is what he showed in losing to Usyk. Now that's one steep learning curve right there - to come back from the L and do what he's done since shows me he could go far, though I still think he'll run into the size problem against the better Heavies... he's good, but maybe not good enough to overcome that. Shit, I ain't even sure Usyk's gonna have enough for the big boys.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:21 PM #22
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Hearn offered him Takam but Hunter wanted more time for that. He's good and can have a fun run at heavy but he'll always be too small for the top guys. He could make real noise at cruiser if he went back.
Exactly my opinion, he doesnít have the size or power to compete with the top guys at HW. With Usyk moving up, the CW division is wide open, Hunter would be right in the mix, if he moved back down
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:39 PM #23
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Exactly my opinion, he doesnít have the size or power to compete with the top guys at HW. With Usyk moving up, the CW division is wide open, Hunter would be right in the mix, if he moved back down
It is no secret that the real money is at HW. I'm sure he would has considered staying at CW but that division is non-existent in the US. The money is at HW & he has a lot more options there. Kiladze, Bakole & Ustinov are 3 pretty good wins to get back into the HW mix. Kiladze took Kownacki 6 rounds & landed a lot of shots. Joyce overpowered him in 5 & Hunter stopped him in 5 too. He totally kicked Ustinov's ass. Let's not forget Ustinov's last fight was with Charr for the WBA regular title & it went 12 rounds. Charr did drop Ustinov at one point but he did not beat him as bad as Hunter did. It was a complete shutout on all 3 judges cards going into the 9th. There really is nothing down at CW for Hunter considering all the top guys are currently in the WSB tourney. There is no money there for him at the moment & he just beat Bakole & Ustinov which proves he belongs in the HW division. Even if he doesn't win a world title there are big fights & money to be made.
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It is no secret that the real money is at HW. I'm sure he would has considered staying at CW but that division is non-existent in the US. The money is at HW & he has a lot more options there. Kiladze, Bakole & Ustinov are 3 pretty good wins to get back into the HW mix. Kiladze took Kownacki 6 rounds & landed a lot of shots. Joyce overpowered him in 5 & Hunter stopped him in 5 too. He totally kicked Ustinov's ass. Let's not forget Ustinov's last fight was with Charr for the WBA regular title & it went 12 rounds. Charr did drop Ustinov at one point but he did not beat him as bad as Hunter did. It was a complete shutout on all 3 judges cards going into the 9th. There really is nothing down at CW for Hunter considering all the top guys are currently in the WSB tourney. There is no money there for him at the moment & he just beat Bakole & Ustinov which proves he belongs in the HW division. Even if he doesn't win a world title there are big fights & money to be made.
Iím not disputing there is far more financial potential at HW. But Hunter isnít big enough to able to compete with Fury, Wilder, AJ so he will have virtually no chance of winning a HW title. If he wants to win a title heíll have to drop back to CW
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Iím not disputing there is far more financial potential at HW. But Hunter isnít big enough to able to compete with Fury, Wilder, AJ so he will have virtually no chance of winning a HW title. If he wants to win a title heíll have to drop back to CW
I agree with the not much hope of winning a title but what would you rather do win a CW title with little fanfare & no money or fight for bigger purses in the HW division? Iíd take the money. Kevin Johnson is making a solid living being a travelling journeyman.
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I agree with the not much hope of winning a title but what would you rather do win a CW title with little fanfare & no money or fight for bigger purses in the HW division? Iíd take the money. Kevin Johnson is making a solid living being a travelling journeyman.
I suppose itís that age old question ďlegacy or moneyĒ? I like Hunter though, he seems a good kid so I wish him success in wherever he fights.
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I like Michael Hunter as well but I think he'd do better to go back down to Cruiserweight. After Usyk gives up his belts maybe he can fight for one of the vacant titles.
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I like Michael Hunter as well but I think he'd do better to go back down to Cruiserweight. After Usyk gives up his belts maybe he can fight for one of the vacant titles.
He's already beat a few decent HWs. He might as well see how far he can go. No money in the CW division outside Europe.
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He's already beat a few decent HWs. He might as well see how far he can go. No money in the CW division outside Europe.
Might be money in a fight with the season two winner. Looking like Hunter has more of a following in Europe than in the states right now anyway.
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Might be money in a fight with the season two winner. Looking like Hunter has more of a following in Europe than in the states right now anyway.
There is a couple more rounds if I have not mistaken so that wouldn't be anytime soon plus he has 2 regional belts already with the IBO & WBA so he is already in their top 15. He is gunning for the IBF regional USBA title his father once held so if he goes that route he would fight for the vacant belt against Zhelei, Kauffman, Hanks, Alfonso or Fedosov who are all rated in the USBA top 6 including himself at #2. If he wins that title he is in the IBF top 15 as well. I got no problems with him going the regional belt route to gain experience against C+ level opponents or other prospects.
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