Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

[tmac20031]

It's not really a question. In his prime, Tyson would beat any heavyweight at the same age.

[abdelfadeel]

It's not really a question. In his prime, Tyson would beat any heavyweight at the same age.

Then why are we questioning it?

[2Shotz]

The biggest advantage I see Frazier having is the level of his opposition was clearly stronger than Tyson. However, more often than not, like Tyson, Frazier would lose to his top opposition... Speed, power, ferocity, offense, defence, two handed punching power -ALL to Tyson. Only chance Frazier has? If Tyson were stupid enough to stand and trade left hooks. Otherwise it's a shoot out with multiple knock downs before the final KO.

[tangalog2200]

Tyson would be in a world of trouble here. Mike wouldn't be facing an intimidated opponent in Smoke, and he couldn't bank on pre FOTC Frazier getting off to a slow start. Jimmy Ellis did well for two and a half rounds by staying the hell away from Joe, hardly Tyson's style.

If Mike did manage to hurt Joe, Smoke wouldn't stop coming, wouldn't stop getting up if Tyson did manage to floor him for an instant. For every right uppercut Mike attempted, Joe would produce three economically devastating hooks to Mike's head and body. Tyson's overhand right would simply go sailing over Joe's bobbing head. No matter how good Mike's head movement was, that wouldn't prevent Joe from nailing him downstairs. Joe would also be a lot more relaxed than Mike. It helped Tyson that Spinks was tense. Joe wouldn't be wrapped so tight.

Quarry started fast against Joe, in their title fight following the Zyglewicz massacre, pouring in nearly a hundred punches in that opening round, and Jerry could hit. Over 50 of Jerry's hooks went downstairs. But Joe returned fire, with over 60 of his own shots in that opening frame. After just two rounds, Jerry was already tiring. With Ziggy, Joe would take a little step back, and let fly with that hook.

Tyson didn't have the awesome shoving strength of a Foreman, and we're not talking about a post FOTC Frazier here. Frazier could very definitely get out of the opening rounds against Mike, then watch out! Unlike Joe, once Tyson went down, he wouldn't be able to beat the count.

Frazier KO 13 Tyson

mike by ko/tko...

if foreman can make a bouncing ball frazer, then mike can, too....

[Ascended]

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