Originally posted by fishscale
View Post
That's part of what it means, yes, the other part is as I said, it effectively means what I or anyone else believes are matters of the state. There's no getting around that fact.
But the phrase was coined to mean that personal problems are political problems, that is to say that a person living in poverty is the result of a political system that allows personal poverty as a norm.
It's wrong, but not in the way that you're claiming.
You need to do more than just gloss over the first result on a google search imo. The actual motto was made popular in an essay by one feminist, yes, but it was being chanted around years before that and had its origins in chattel slavery.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, Second wave feminism was based on a model of systematic oppression similar to chattel slavery, second wave feminists were certifiable lunatics and originally failed to gain the support of many women, it wasn't until (ironically) a feminist they kicked out of their group for not being radical enough opened up a shelter for victims of domestic violence (source: Erin Pizzey) that they gained actual support and that's where the myth of male-on-female violence started.
Totalitarianism always starts by infecting the intellectual class and that's why feminism started in universities.
A quick example and simply saying "she's a crank" doesn't negate anything about her, she openly spreads hate and promotes the killing of men not only online but in real life, with an audience watching, applauding what she does, she sure has a good sized fan base for such a "crank".
So yes, a crank calling for the murder of men and supported by a bunch of crank-watchers doesn't make her less of a crank.
Asking for specific numbers isn't relevant to the point and serves no other purpose than to try and accuse me of lying. A quick wiki read should have been enough to satisfy your supposed desire to know "how many" and "who are they?"
"Solanas was viewed as too mentally ill and too bound up with Warhol, according to Greer, "for her message to come across unperverted.""
More mainstream feminists considered Valerie Solanos to be a nutter.
I'd class that as "many" without fear of misconstruing the facts, wouldn't you? There was more support of the manifesto than just outlined there, as well.
That's a cop out and you know it. What you just said is "the state would imprison the man if they deemed him a threat" which he blatantly would be, mind you, I'm sure there's a law against promoting the killing of people especially people targeted for their gender.
You don't see it as a big deal that a large majority of people are brainwashed into believing 1 in 3 women will be abused/assaulted/raped?
You don't see how damaging such a belief is to the public people and what a strain such statistics can put on people? Why? Change the roles for a second and say 1 in 3 women will be abused/assaulted/raped by Jews and there'd be absolute uproar but as it's just men being vilified it's "not too big a deal" ? ah.
Feminism is a dirty word, with a very dirty history drenched in the hate of not just men but young boys too.
The issue with family courts isn't directly feminism's fault, I will say that but feminism is the reason why those issues in family court AREN'T being addressed or amended, not only do feminists not support such changes they openly oppose them. That's the problem with that issue. No shock though is it? Feminists only ever talk about "equal rights" when it suits them anyways and they always have.
Which is what these "radical" feminists do with politicians.
I think actively promoting the hatred/killing of half the population based on gender should be considered more than just a "crank" especially when that person has an audience/people that support her.
That's where we fundamentally disagree and where the problem arises then, I believe (and can site sources if requested)
the cranks of feminism do get things done, very bad things that harm our society and they do it under the banner of "feminism" they hide behind it because feminism is associated with "equality" but if the actions of those people are the opposite of equality, what then? Feminism isn't a fight for equality and it hasn't been since 2nd wave feminism.
It IS a hate group or at the very least, it's a safe ground for hateful people to hide away in and subtly promote their hatred.
Look up Harriet Hall. She is a feminist who blazed a trail and broke ground in equal opportunities for women in the Air Force. Now tell me that she's in the same group as Valerie Solanos or even Germaine Greer.
Never heard of Adria Richards? The middle-class "ethnic" college girls are even worse they get a double whammy of race baiting and gender hatred usually accompanied with a side serving of "straight hate".
Comment