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Old 03-14-2018, 01:05 AM #11
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Individual matchups donít carry much weight. Styles make fights. That said, Fury had no career. He doesnít rate. He flaked out.
Virtually everyone puts Wlad in their top 10 and Fury beat him when he was still prime.

That win alone should get him rated.
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He completely dominated Wlad in Germany (Wlads 2nd home). Not once did he ever get buzzed.

As for Frazier beating him hahaha Fury is near 7 feet tall that's almost a foot taller than Frazier who fought in a low crouching style. How the hell is he going to generate the power given his style to hurt Fury. Easy win for Fury so would Tyson who couldn't handle the reach and speed.
Completely dominated Wlad? You mean the man barely threw enough punches to win a fight against a 40 year old way past his prime fighter? Scores were 115-112, that's far from domination.

Prime Wlad probably knocks out Fury within 10, Prime Tyson scorches him within 5.

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Virtually everyone puts Wlad in their top 10 and Fury beat him when he was still prime.

That win alone should get him rated.
A fighter that is 40 years old is far from his prime, sorry to break it to you.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:08 AM #13
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Completely dominated Wlad? You mean the man barely threw enough punches to win a fight against a 40 year old way past his prime fighter? Scores were 115-112, that's far from domination.

Prime Wlad probably knocks out Fury within 10, Prime Tyson scorches him within 5.
The fact he won 7 rounds in Wlads 2nd home in front of extremely biased judges (Germany is notorious) that's like beating Wlad 118-110 in Vegas or anywhere outside of Germany and UKraine.
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The fact he won 7 rounds in Wlads 2nd home in front of extremely biased judges (Germany is notorious) that's like beating Wlad 118-110 in Vegas or anywhere outside of Germany and UKraine.
Yeaahh, but I and everyone else saw the fight and the 115-112 scores were pretty accurate regardless if the fight was in Germany or in Fury's backyard. Point is, Fury defeated an old past his prime albeit an all time great fighter. Props to Fury for being the first person to defeat Wladimir in 10 years, but lets not pretend like he bulldozed through a prime champion, on the contrary he barely beat a guy who was over the hill, looking into the sunset.


Mark my words, if Fury meets Joshua or Wilder he is getting pulverized. The version of Wlad who fought AJ would've beat Fury.
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Yeaahh, but I and everyone else saw the fight and the 115-112 scores were pretty accurate regardless if the fight was in Germany or in Fury's backyard. Point is, Fury defeated an old past his prime albeit an all time great fighter. Props to Fury for being the first person to defeat Wladimir in 10 years, but lets not pretend like he bulldozed through a prime champion, on the contrary he barely beat a guy who was over the hill, looking into the sunset.


Mark my words, if Fury meets Joshua or Wilder he is getting pulverized. The version of Wlad who fought AJ would've beat Fury.
The version that AJ beat was even older and slower.

Fury has the size and handspeed to trouble Wlad at any stage of his career. Wlad never met a guy that big that can move and hit that fast. Imo Fury beats any version.
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The version that AJ beat was even older and slower.

Fury has the size and handspeed to trouble Wlad at any stage of his career. Wlad never met a guy that big that can move and hit that fast. Imo Fury beats any version.
The version that AJ met was older, but certainly not slower. That version came to fight and showed flashes of the old Wlad.
The version that fought Fury was complacent and confused, hesitant to throw the right hand.

Prime for Prime Fury loses to Wlad in brutal fashion. I mean for crying out loud the guy won the heavyweight title from Wlad by literally doing as little as possible. He didn't dominate or excite, it was one of the most anti-climatic heavyweight championship wins I have ever seen. For you to claim that Fury beats any version of Wlad after his barely enough win against a past his prime 40 year old performance, tells me you are more of a fan boy of Fury than an observer of true boxing.

Again AJ or Wilder will expose Fury if the fights ever get made.
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He completely dominated Wlad in Germany (Wlads 2nd home). Not once did he ever get buzzed.

As for Frazier beating him hahaha Fury is near 7 feet tall that's almost a foot taller than Frazier who fought in a low crouching style. How the hell is he going to generate the power given his style to hurt Fury. Easy win for Fury so would Tyson who couldn't handle the reach and speed.
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The version that AJ met was older, but certainly not slower. That version came to fight and showed flashes of the old Wlad.
The version that fought Fury was complacent and confused, hesitant to throw the right hand.

Prime for Prime Fury loses to Wlad in brutal fashion. I mean for crying out loud the guy won the heavyweight title from Wlad by literally doing as little as possible. He didn't dominate or excite, it was one of the most anti-climatic heavyweight championship wins I have ever seen. For you to claim that Fury beats any version of Wlad after his barely enough win against a past his prime 40 year old performance, tells me you are more of a fan boy of Fury than an observer of true boxing.

Again AJ or Wilder will expose Fury if the fights ever get made.
Exactly this
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