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Originally posted by maracho
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what's the title of thread? what were we talking about, ''boxrec'' in a other thread? Maybe look at the first page of this thread ... hopefully I won't have to insinuate anymore! -
Originally posted by Lester Tutor View Post
Ok Now I get it but I dont know I got here.
Anyway while interesting, most of these are not serious fights so probably the opponents simply agreed to come in at walk around or training weight
Anyway, what was the weights of the opponents and was there no early incidents of Canelo doing this?Comment
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like I said, register at Boxrec, and you'll see all the info you want!Originally posted by maracho View Post
How many fights did Canelo have at 155? compare that to questions you are asking and who the opponents wereComment
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They are still down today but Im gonna try that and get backOriginally posted by Lester Tutor View PostComment
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Ok Boxrec is finally back up and I'm logged in but they ain't showing fighter's weights like they used too. Now I do see that Lara for instance started out at middleweight but the point of my argument is that Canelo has been weighing in as a middleweight fighting JR middleweights .Originally posted by Lester Tutor View Post
If your weights are correct, then Lara for instance was battling quite the opposite and much more noble in that he weighed only 155 but was fighting genuine middleweights who obviously weighed much more than him.
Thus, your argument is seeming more a ruseComment
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Savage. As. Fuck.Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postbro, I will not spend too much time in this thread, because this subject is also being "discussed" on two other threads
the subject..... is utter stupidity, and is only being pushed by a handful of try-hard Golovkin fanboys..... Shape Up, kafkod, and a few others
this is a breakdown of the ENTIRE argument.....
The Cause:
the failed negotiations between Canelo/Golovkin in 2016
1) Golovkin ran around for FIVE YEARS saying that he can beat "anyone from 154-168", he even specifically promised to fight Canelo at 154.....
Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....
http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-a...4/15398?var=no
2) Canelo..... being an entitled diva who was prepared to exploit his position, and his understanding of the sport..... demanded that fight at 155
3) Golovkin..... being full-of-shht, and not wanting to have his hype-train derailed, totally refused..... he offered Rosado/Brook a catchweight, but totally refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto and Canelo..... bizarrely, Golovkin then stated that he is willing and able to fight at 154, but nobody will step up
4) Golovkin's idiot fanbase, in their wisdom..... rather than calling out Golovkin for his lies, inconsistencies, and bizarre refusal to negotiate on weight with superstars despite the fact that he was willing to negotiate on weight with no-hopers..... decided to re-label 155 Canelo as a middleweight, in an effort to remove the egg from both of Golovkin's face's
The killer:
when Canelo fought Liam Smith at 154 to win the WBO JMW title, that "Canelo is a middleweight" nonsense should have stopped there and then..... anyone with half-a-brain should have realized that referring to Canelo as a middleweight was try-hard fanboy rubbish..... but, some did not
The bottom line:
FACT: anyone who thinks that Cotto was a genuine middleweight..... is "special"
FACT: anyone who refers to a fighter who has never weighed more than 155, as a genuine middleweight..... is even more "special"
the Golovkin krewe just looooove calling me a hater, which is just another excuse-making label, like "middleweight" was..... but they really have tagged/bagged themselves by peddling that rubbish
can you say..... dumbass casual fan ? lol
FACT: a genuine middleweight does TWO things..... he prepares to weigh-in at 160, in order to fight a middleweight opponent.....
well, Canelo had never done either of those things until he fought Golovkin..... which makes casual fans as dumb as a rockComment
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Yes but how many fights does Lara, Kirkland, and Angulo have above 154 vs Canelo!Originally posted by stealthrado
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