Is anyone else fed up of people mentioning Ortiz as an elite fighter?

[Phenom]

None of the current heavyweights are elite.

I would agree with this some what tbh...

[BillyBoxing]

Knocking out Bryant Jennings is his biggest win. Wlad couldn't knock out Jennings!

Lool wilder fans. Duuuuummmbbb squaaaaad

So he's elite because he could ko a wlad leftovers. Cool

[Szef]

The only people (WBC) that rank Ortiz within the top 4 rank Whyte above him ******.

[Phenom]

Lool wilder fans. Duuuuummmbbb squaaaaad

So he's elite because he could ko a wlad leftovers. Cool

Whyte was on queer street vs Parker who couldn't punch his way out of paper bag Povetkin was knocked half way across the ring by David ****ing price and looked very average against mediocre opponents in the last 2 years

There is a reason why none of them want any part of Ortiz mate

[Robbie Barrett]

Whyte was on queer street vs Parker who couldn't punch his way out of paper bag Povetkin was knocked half way across the ring by David ****ing price and looked very average against mediocre opponents in the last 2 years

There is a reason why none of them want any part of Ortiz mate

Nobody in the top 50 wanted to fight him? He had to fight Kauffman did he?

He wants to fight bums. When asked why the Whyte fight didn't happen his trainer and Ortiz said they don't know, if they were interested in that fight you'd think they'd know wouldn't you?

[Phenom]

Nobody in the top 50 wanted to fight him? He had to fight Kauffman did he?

He wants to fight bums. When asked why the Whyte fight didn't happen his trainer and Ortiz said they don't know, if they were interested in that fight you'd think they'd know wouldn't you?

Why didn’t Whyte fight him and opted for 10 loss Chisora? Love to read the mental gymnastic of an excuse for the most blatant duck in recent history

Fight me on the 22nd mate

[donjigga11]

Funny thing is if Joe Joyce beats him a lot of people will change there views on him.

[Robbie Barrett]

Why didn’t Whyte fight him and opted for 10 loss Chisora? Love to read the mental gymnastic of an excuse for the most blatant duck in recent history

Fight me on the 22nd mate

They asked Ortiz that and he didn't know. He never contacted Whyte or his team to make the fight by the looks of it. You'd think he'd be all over it, but no he wanted to fight bum Kauffman instead.

Ortiz gets asked if he'll fight x,y,z he says yes and then makes no effort to do it.

[Robbie Barrett]

Funny thing is if Joe Joyce beats him a lot of people will change there views on him.

Then he'll suddenly become shot.

[mick1303]

Ortiz is a good fighter. With fair ref he would've beaten Wilder.