Originally posted by Napoleontas
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everything i said is just the facts coz too many people riding on the global warming band wagon but they have really no idea how it really works coz they just believe everything they are being told that is appealing by the media and news.
Yep water vapor contributes heavily on global warming which is caused by solar activity by the sun. Kahit elementary alam yan e.
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Fact during 1000ad is the sharpest rise in global temperature also has higher temperature coampared to now and 500 bc also has very shap rise and a much high temperature than 1000ad, and 1000bc also has a sharp rise and the highest over the 3000 years peroid up to now. And our current rise in temperater is not even high it is just a slanting rise and our current temperature is merely below average of the 3000 year span.
So bascially the logic is that if humans are causing global warming the incrase during the 19th and 20th century should be very sharp coz there we have the industrial age and modern age but it is not but the sharpest rise is during the medivel period which is a lot warmer compared to now.
Well thats the lesson for today
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When we talk about global warming it always humans and their co2 emmissions and lets look at water vapor too.
Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many "facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).
Human activites contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate. Putting it all together total human greenhouse gas contributions add up to about 0.28% of the greenhouse effect.
The Kyoto Protocol calls for mandatory carbon dioxide reductions of 30% from developed countries like the U.S. Reducing man-made CO2 emissions this much would have an undetectable effect on climate while having a devastating effect on the U.S. economy. Can you drive your car 30% less, reduce your winter heating 30%? Pay 20-50% more for everything from automobiles to zippers? And that is just a down payment, with more sacrifices to come later.
Such drastic measures, even if imposed equally on all countries around the world, would reduce total human greenhouse contributions from CO2 by about 0.035%.
This is much less than the natural variability of Earth's climate system!
While the greenhouse reductions would exact a high human price, in terms of sacrifices to our standard of living, they would yield statistically negligible results in terms of measurable impacts to climate change. There is no expectation that any statistically significant global warming reductions would come from the Kyoto Protocol.
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Let me guess you got that link off some Neo Con website, huh??? Why dont you link a site of any notable scientist or any kind of credible source....
Jeez, man, how ****ing utterly stupid can you be??? Human activity and its impact on climate change is not debatable, its ALREADY AN ACCEPTED AND PROVEN IDEA in practically 99% of all scientists world wide are in concensus... The only ******s that still think its debatable are the same people that think the world is only a few thousand years old and believe evolution is some liberal scheme...
Argue with this:
Massachusettes Institute of Technology News
"There's clear evidence that greenhouse gases have been increasing by very large amounts since preindustrial times, and the vast majority of these increases are due to human activity," said Ronald Prinn, TEPCO Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at MIT
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities.[1]
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
Human activity is most likely responsible for climate warming. Most of the climatic warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been caused by increased concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Documented long-term climate changes include changes in Arctic temperatures and ice, widespread changes in precipitation amounts, ocean salinity, wind patterns and extreme weather including droughts, heavy precipitation, heat waves and the intensity of tropical cyclones. The above development potentially has dramatic consequences for mankind’s future. [10]
Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change, Peter T. Doran and Maggie Kendall Zimmerman
"It seems that the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes."
Doran surveyed 10,257 Earth scientists
Now, please, go ****ing read a book and learn something...
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oh i forgot to post the link
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
Fact:
Climate change is controlled primarily by cyclical eccentricities in Earth's rotation and orbit, as well as variations in the sun's energy output.
Greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere also influence Earth's temperature, but in a much smaller way. Human additions to total greenhouse gases play a still smaller role, contributing about 0.2% - 0.3% to Earth's greenhouse effect.
Yep its a done deal, global warming hype should not be a reason to ruin and hamper economic growth and development specially for developing nation like ours.Last edited by Alexandros; 10-03-2009, 06:33 AM.
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Originally posted by nycbgdogg View PostLet me guess you got that link off some Neo Con website, huh??? Why dont you link a site of any notable scientist or any kind of credible source....
Jeez, man, how ****ing utterly stupid can you be??? Human activity and its impact on climate change is not debatable, its ALREADY AN ACCEPTED AND PROVEN IDEA in practically 99% of all scientists world wide are in concensus... The only ******s that still think its debatable are the same people that think the world is only a few thousand years old and believe evolution is some liberal scheme...
Argue with this:
Massachusettes Institute of Technology News
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2007/climate.html
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scienti...climate_change
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scienti...climate_change
Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change, Peter T. Doran and Maggie Kendall Zimmerman
Just about every reputable scientist and every institution of higher learning agree that human activity has had effect of climate change... Its a done deal, pal....
Now, please, go ****ing read a book and learn something...
Fact:
Of the 186 billion tons of CO2 that enter earth's atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth's oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.
weeew aint that hard
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Originally posted by Napoleontas View Postoh i forgot to post the link
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
Fact:
Climate change is controlled primarily by cyclical eccentricities in Earth's rotation and orbit, as well as variations in the sun's energy output.
Greenhouse gases in Earth's atmosphere also influence Earth's temperature, but in a much smaller way. Human additions to total greenhouse gases play a still smaller role, contributing about 0.2% - 0.3% to Earth's greenhouse effect.
Yep its a done deal, global warming hype should not be a reason to ruin and hamper economic growth and development specially for developing nation like ours.
Your damn site doesnt even have an author on it....Oh Wait, the site you linked is from GEOCRAFT.COM....HAHAHAHAH!!! ISNT GEOCRAFT CREATED BY RESEARCHERS OF CONOCOPHILLIPS?????
http://www.geocraft.org/
CONOCOPHILLIPS
As the third-largest integrated energy company in the United States, based on market capitalization, oil and natural gas reserves, the company understands its responsibility to deliver energy in a safe, environmentally and socially responsible manner.
You damn ******, are you ****ing serious??? You actually attempt to debate me regarding carbon emissions and greenhouse gases with a so called scientific link from a damn oil company????
Its cute how they make the site look like an actual school book as to make it more believable...lol
You are a complete moron.... Have you even taken a college level science class above 101??? Really, bro, this is embarassing... People are going to think all Pinoys are stupid like you...
You have no credibility.... game over.
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well those are facts boy, i dont care if who said it or whatnot.. fact is that even if we cut carbon emissions it wont even be significant.
I posted that link for the figures and statistics because so u would see it and i dont need to go websites and other crap i myself understand how it works i even debated and convinced my professor in enviromental engineering about global warming and what about u, u just dumb layman sheep riding that bandwagon but u dont understand or know jack**** u just go to stupid websites and get bad science.
Yep there is good science that is based on facts figures and truth and bad science which what is global warming hype is made of.
And does not matter who said it and what institution claimed it does not matter who his name is or how smart he is, if the statements dont fit figures and patterns then it is wrong as plain and simple as that .
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