Pacquiao's Prime

[Larry the boss]

marquez damm near killed manny when floyd fought him lol. i dont ever recall morales or barrera taking those type of punishment yet they were pass prime when pac fought and beat them.

and you know damm well what im getting at about the whole floyd waited until pac got old thing. posters are not talking about who's older but more so about who was more shop worn when they fought eachother, your boy above just confirm that everyone's body age differently. but when this gets brought up, floyd fans always say how can that be true when floyd is older than manny lol.

Barrera had a damn metal plate in his head!!! you cant claim Manny was shot while he was p4p #2 WBO champ and a top ranked ww and then claim floyd was prime at 38 years old..thats just stupid

[WesternChamp]

Barrera had a damn metal plate in his head!!!

uh yeah, from surgery. wtf does that have to do with getting knocked out cold like manny did? lol

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Prime is hard to gauge because every fighter is different..


Younger fighters may be better physically, but older fighters much smarter..

A fighters prime is when physical tools and smarts intercede..


For manny, I thought he was a tornado at 130 and below but not really that technical or smart.. After morales 1, manny realized he couldn't just be the jab, jab, straight left one dimensional fighter.. From then he really developed his in and out style and improved his ring generalship and right hand..

Manny 2006-2010 was manny at his peak prime IMO... Morales 2- margarito

As for barrera and morales primes..

I believe both to be prime from 99/00 to about 2005..

[WesternChamp]

Barrera had a damn metal plate in his head!!! you cant claim Manny was shot while he was p4p #2 WBO champ and a top ranked ww and then claim floyd was prime at 38 years old..thats just stupid

im not saying he was shot, but he sure wasnt the same manny before ktfo6. you trying to deny this? lol

[Larry the boss]

uh yeah, from surgery. wtf does that have to do with getting knocked out cold like manny did? lol

So a metal plate in your head doesnt affect your health or your prime?? are you serious? brain surgery is not a big deal now??


The surgery, known as a craniotomy, took place after Barrera's second bout against Junior Jones and was related to a congenital defect; not the fight itself. Barrera's skull was opened, an abnormal vein was removed, and a metal plate to protect the area was affixed with screws inside his skull.


yea lets just ignore this right

[Dip_Slide]

All were legit wins for Pacquiao except the second Morales fight imo, Morales coming off a loss and down in weight put him at a clear disadvantage. People also won't forget that the first Morales fight is probably the only fight around that time where Pacquiao took a blood test close to fight night and he lost.

[WesternChamp]

Barrera had a damn metal plate in his head!!! you cant claim Manny was shot while he was p4p #2 WBO champ and a top ranked ww and then claim floyd was prime at 38 years old..thats just stupid

who the fucks claim floyd was prime at 38?

all im saying was when they finally fought eachother pac was more damage than floyd. this is a lie?

[Larry the boss]

who the fucks claim floyd was prime at 38?

all im saying was when they finally fought eachother pac was more damage than floyd. this is a lie?

Yet after that fight he still managed to return and drop Bradley 2 times and regain the WBO title??

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You can be out of your prime and still be a very good fighter, even elite caliber..

Lennox Lewis
Ali
Hopkins
Floyd
Manny
Barrera in 05/06
Marquez
Duran
Toney


Their is a huge difference between being shot and being past prime

[Thraxox]

All were legit wins for Pacquiao except the second Morales fight imo, Morales coming off a loss and down in weight put him at a clear disadvantage. People also won't forget that the first Morales fight is probably the only fight around that time where Pacquiao took a blood test close to fight night and he lost.

They took 2 ****ing ounces of Blood from many in 1 night, that would drain the **** out of him and Morales head butt manny like a freaking tank and more blood comes out and he still couldn't stop him!