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  • #61
    Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
    Aaaah no.

    LOL, nice try tho.

    That bolded right there?

    That's when you stepped off Truth Avenue and went skipping down BullShyte Lane my friend.

    Matchroom has never come close to "paying the most". That's why they have a problem now, a Vegas rematch makes more money than even Wilder v Joshua in Wembley.

    And of course, you left out THE MOST PERTINENT FACT...Pro Lawn aint getting that big job to cut without the kid who thinks he is the world's best lawn cutter.

    The client-in this case, the public- actually believes the kid (or enough of them do anyway) when he says he is the world's best lawn cutter.

    And, the kid just found out he can make as much or more money WITHOUT Pro Lawn (who incidentally has been jerking him around for almost two years) if he teams up with this other kid who also cuts lawns really well.

    The two of them can cut this OTHER lawn that is EVEN BIGGER than the one Pro Lawn has been babbling about for a year and a half...THEY CAN SPLIT THE MONEY and leave the $50 jobs to Pro Lawn and this other kid who prefers to only cut lawns near his mommy's house.

    Hope that helps...
    1) Enough people think the kid is the best in the world? You mean deranged and deluded people? Because it didn't even need the number 1 to take him down. It was actually a fighter coming from obesity who shouldn't have even been in the top 10 in any rankings.

    2) Where does the kid go for big paydays when the Fury thing is over? Joshua will still be making big bank like always. But Wilder will go all the way back to fighting for the kind of purses he was making before the Fury fights. So it doesn't work out for the kid at all.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
      You have to be a paid shill to talk some sense? Can see why you don't get paid anything then.
      Go and cry about it, spunkbubble. Do you enjoy the taste of hearns scrotum?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Phenom View Post
        7

        Do you disagree that AJ biggest fight in terms of money generated is the Klitschko fight?

        Because we know how much the fight generated and how much both AJ and Klitschko made because K2 put the numbers out

        Matchroom never put out official numbers on how much AJ v Parker or Takam or Povetkin generated but every one knows the fights didn't make the expected gates and wasn't sold out
        It probably was the biggest fight moneywise, but Klitschko probably got a bigger cut than the likes of Parker and Takam, so AJ probably made money from those fights if that makes sense

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Phenom View Post
          Obviously they will try now because Wilder v Fury 2 is bigger fight than any fight AJ had or will ever have

          Begging for a career payday now basically
          Only thing that's obvious is that the are people in this world who absolutely suck at math. Joshua made 20M pounds in his last fight ($25M). Even if the networks took absolutely no cut of the PPV and Wilder got 50% of all the money generated, he would get 325k*75 = 24.4 + 10m gate = 34.4 / 2 = 17.2M.

          Realistically, networks take half the PPV funds and the arena collects between 500k-1M. Wilder would be extremely lucky to have earned $10M from this fight.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
            1) Enough people think the kid is the best in the world? You mean deranged and deluded people? Because it didn't even need the number 1 to take him down. It was actually a fighter coming from obesity who shouldn't have even been in the top 10 in any rankings.

            2) Where does the kid go for big paydays when the Fury thing is over? Joshua will still be making big bank like always. But Wilder will go all the way back to fighting for the kind of purses he was making before the Fury fights. So it doesn't work out for the kid at all.
            Look, it is true that Wilder doesn't have 90,000 drunk folks willing to watch him play patty-cake with the likes of Takaam...but truth is, neither will Joshua if he keeps bullshytting about money.

            Doesn't strike you oddly that AJ and Hearn choose the biggest fight of his career to start nickel and diming folks?

            Every other big fight, he paid what they were worth to him, AJ.

            Martin got more than AJ to sell his belt, Wlad got half for his status, Parker got 35% for his belt.

            Well, Wilder is worth more to AJ than ALL of them.

            Yet, NOW is when they want to talk about what the other guy is worth?

            It's a clear tell, Sid.

            Wilder is worth at least a 60/40 split if it is in Britain, 50/50 if it is in Vegas.

            You may be right about Wilder not making the money anywhere else...but the recent fight and the coming rematch may change that, may have already changed that.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by j0zef View Post
              Only thing that's obvious is that the are people in this world who absolutely suck at math. Joshua made 20M pounds in his last fight ($25M). Even if the networks took absolutely no cut of the PPV and Wilder got 50% of all the money generated, he would get 325k*75 = 24.4 + 10m gate = 34.4 / 2 = 17.2M.

              Realistically, networks take half the PPV funds and the arena collects between 500k-1M. Wilder would be extremely lucky to have earned $10M from this fight.
              If networks take half the money, how did AJ make 25 million?

              It did 1,113,000 buys. Times $25 and you get a little under 28 million. Half of that is 14 million. Throw in a gate of 10 million and that is 24 million for AJ and Povetkin to split!

              Seems like those folks you are banging on aren't the only one with math problems...

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                Hearn didn't run to DAZN. DAZN had no boxing until Hearn came along. So they ran to him to be the main promoter.

                Besides, Wilder doesn't have a contract with Showtime so no problem is in the way of the fight. But i'm not surprised by your comments because the angle from Wilder's fans always change to suit. You don't want to acknowledge what Wilder is saying because it stands in the way of your pathetic smear campaign against Joshua. So it's you who needs to GTFOH.
                Joshua isn’t relevant enough to me to smear him. I don’t care how big he is over there.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by j0zef View Post
                  Only thing that's obvious is that the are people in this world who absolutely suck at math. Joshua made 20M pounds in his last fight ($25M). Even if the networks took absolutely no cut of the PPV and Wilder got 50% of all the money generated, he would get 325k*75 = 24.4 + 10m gate = 34.4 / 2 = 17.2M.

                  Realistically, networks take half the PPV funds and the arena collects between 500k-1M. Wilder would be extremely lucky to have earned $10M from this fight.
                  Networks take negotiated amount not necessarily half and what about close circuit movie theaters etc showtime streaming ppv and UK PPV

                  AJ doesn’t make anywhere close to $25M and his highest gate ever infront of 90K people wasn't even $10M stop believing whatever Hearn tells you

                  There is a reason why Matchroom doesn't release the numbers and AJ definitely hasn't been fighting infront of 90k lately
                  Last edited by Phenom; 12-14-2018, 01:11 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Phenom View Post
                    Networks take negotiated amount not necessarily half and what about close circuit movie theaters etc showtime streaming ppv and UK PPV
                    Networks take between 45-55% depending on power of promoter & magnitude of the fight. Common info. All of those except for UK PPV are included. UK PPVs were expected to goto Fury, which is why even though their purse split was 50/50, their expected earnings were different as reported by multiple sources, including Boxingscene.

                    AJ doesn’t make anywhere close to $25M and his highest gate ever infront of 90K people wasn't even $10M stop believing whatever Hearn tells you
                    Yawn. There are multiple sources, including the one I linked, that reported his earnings of 20m pounds against Povetkin. Close to the same figure was reported against Parker. The purses from Wlad/Joshua in 2016 were pegged at 15m pounds each, which was GBP10M guaranteed + min 5m from PPV. At the end of April 2016, GBP to USD conversion rate was 1.44 USD = 1GBP, which works out to $21.6M.

                    A quick search of gate revenue from his fight against Klitchko pegs gate revenue at GBP 8M = $11.5M.


                    You can keep living in your dream world where Joshua is begging Wilder for a career high payday. Or you can face the verifiable facts and realize that Joshua fights for GBP10M guarantees while Wilder's last fight brought him a career high $4M guarantee. As someone said, there's levels to this sht.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by j0zef View Post


                      Yawn. There are multiple sources, including the one I linked, that reported his earnings of 20m pounds against Povetkin. Close to the same figure was reported against Parker. The purses from Wlad/Joshua in 2016 were pegged at 15m pounds each, which was GBP10M guaranteed + min 5m from PPV. At the end of April 2016, GBP to USD conversion rate was 1.44 USD = 1GBP, which works out to $21.6M.

                      A quick search of gate revenue from his fight against Klitchko pegs gate revenue at GBP 8M = $11.5M.


                      You can keep living in your dream world where Joshua is begging Wilder for a career high payday. Or you can face the verifiable facts and realize that Joshua fights for GBP10M guarantees while Wilder's last fight brought him a career high $4M guarantee. As someone said, there's levels to this sht.
                      You keep linking dailystar and telegraph and other tabloids AJ made £15M against Klitschko in his highest grossing fight since then he never managed to sell 90K tickets or come close to those PPV numbers full stop

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