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Lennox is roughly 1 year older Tyson. Where was he when Mike was conquering boxing?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by uglypug View Post
    winning a gold medal in the olympics only to go on and become FIVE TIMES the boxer Tyson ever was. . . Even though Lennox straight BYTCHED against vitali, and was sent into retirement by the bloke - he is still one of the HW GOAT's. . . LOL GOT DAMN did he beat the brakes off Tyson! **** was BRUTAL!
    You do understand that Tyson was THE LAST HEAVYWEIGHT to unify the titles right?

    Lennox will NEVER have the aura Tyson had.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Kid McCoy View Post
      That's a myth. Cus died in 1985 and Tyson was pretty damn good for three or four years after that. It was Jimmy Jacobs' death that had a bigger impact on Tyson's career. The two were pretty close and it was only after Jacobs died that King was able to worm his way in and isolate Tyson from Cayton, who he never had a great relationship with.
      DING DING DING DING you sir got it correct. Cus left Tyson in good hands with Jimmy Jacobs. Jacobs also would have NEVER let that ******* King get even CLOSE to Tyson if he was still alive.

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      • #53
        Oliver Mccall and Hasim Rahman both achieved more than Buster Douglas, and Lennox Lewis achieved more than Mike Tyson.

        Lewis goes down as an ATG, Tyson as a Hall of Famer.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
          Lennox was an opportunist.

          Lewis would have gotten destroyed against a prime Iron Mike and he knows it. He used that Olympic excuse for years but the truth is Tyson and Lennox fought as amateurs and knew who each other were.

          Lennox wanted no parts of the phenom known as Iron Mike.

          He waited until Tyson was nice and thoroughly undisciplined to face him. Lennox did the same thing to Holyfield. He fought all his best competition once they were no longer in prime form.

          Lennox has been knocked out twice by C & D fighters IN HIS PRIME. He's been stunned by several journeymen and only survived due to the lack of the journeymen's finishing skills. See: Shannon Briggs

          Lewis was also one of the most boring HW champions ever. The guy jabs and then hugs. Jabs and then hugs. In his own way, Lennox was as bad as Hopkins in that regard.

          Had Lewis not faced Tyson and Holyfield for the name recognition on his resume, would any of you still consider him even memorable? That's an important question to ask yourself because he sure didn't beat the best version of either man.

          Lewis wasn't half the fighter that Tyson was. He didn't have half the skill or half the technique. I agree that Lewis had the better career between the two though because Tyson basically had a meltdown and didn't care where his career went once we entered the 1990's.

          Still, having a better career doesn't make Lennox even close to a prime Tyson. Skill, heart, ability to captivate and intrigue, defense ... Tyson in his prime had Lewis beat in every way. He just couldn't hold it together.
          By God, you post some utter garbage. It's worse than the ignorant illiterate garbage because you wrap it in eloquence which will make said ignorant illiterates more likely to believe it.

          Lewis took on Holyfield as soon as he could get him, and arguably in his prime.

          When Lewis became champion, Holyfield was in the middle of being on the losing end of a trilogy with Riddick Bowe. Before it would be complete, Lewis was on the end of a harsh stoppage at the hands of McCall, which derailed him for 2.5 years as the rematch was avoided.

          Lewis didn't avoid anybody, he fought everybody, and beat them all. The problem for Lewis was getting the fights, because he was a very dangerous opponent and most fighters are too well "managed" these days until the money gets a bit too big to turn down.

          When Tyson left jail in 95, he was no longer the force he was prior to his incarceration. (He'd arguably already declined by the time he was sent away.) Don King didn't want to feed him to Lennox Lewis, so he sought after a far more beatable opponent in Evander Holyfield, who'd been beaten by Bowe and Moorer.

          After Holyfield put away Tyson twice, it became all about Holyfield vs Lewis. Lewis won that battle, and then it became about Lewis vs Tyson. Tyson fought a series of stiffs to rebuild the fierce Tyson reputation and maximize the revenue for that fight, but by now Tyson was not the hungry fighter he once was, and Lewis dispatched him easily.

          A fight between a near-prime Tyson and Lews was never, ever on the cards. Their careers started years apart and the men peaked a decade apart.

          Peak Lewis always would pose problems for any Mike, due to his reach, his skills, and his toughness. In his prime, Tyson didn't fight any decent opponents. Holmes was way past his best, Spinks was a cruiserweight. Several non-en****** took Mike the distance (Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tucker, Mitch Green, Tillis) and they all had something in common with Lewis - size. Mike was not great against bigger men. And this is PRIME Iron Mike, the guy who supposedly destroyed everybody.

          Iron Mike fans look back with rose tinted glasses. He was a prodigy, an immense talent, one of the most dangerous fighters in history, but the "leashed by D'amato" Mike was beatable, he just never faced somebody who had the tools. Lennox Lewis, in his prime, had the tools.

          However since they peaked a decade apart, this is all hypothetical.

          As for boring, anybody who calls Lewis boring obviously never saw the Vitali Klitschko, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, Rahmann II, Frank Bruno fights, not to mention the boatload of 2nd round knockouts of people like Moorer, Grant.

          The "boring" fights I can think of are the Akinwande (he didn't want to fight?), Tua (use the right tool for the job, the jab in this case), and Mercer (which wasn't boring, just was a bad style match up for Lewis and Mercer was very tough).

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          • #55
            Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
            You do understand that Tyson was THE LAST HEAVYWEIGHT to unify the titles right?

            Lennox will NEVER have the aura Tyson had.
            Nice trolling.

            Tyson unified the WBC, WBA, and IBF belts.

            Lewis unified the WBC, WBA, IBF, and IBO belts in his rematch with Holyfield.

            Facts are a *****.

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