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  • #21
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    they kept him away from guys like marquez?
    No, they kept him away from good counter punchers..thats why he always cried about movement..same thing GGG is now crying about

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    • #22
      Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
      how does that help you to adjust to 147??? sounds like an excuse to discredit what Mayweather did


      as opposed to fighting a welterwegith straight after weighing 134, and adjusting so little that you go back down to 133.5?


      marquez real adjustment to 147 was hooking up with heredia and going through puberty again.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
        No, they kept him away from good counter punchers..thats why he always cried about movement..same thing GGG is now crying about

        good counterpunchers like marquez ?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
          how does that help you to adjust to 147??? sounds like an excuse to discredit what Mayweather did
          Because he had barely gotten used to carrying 135 pounds. You gradually move through weight classes and get settled at a division.

          Your trying to big up Mayweather's win over Marquez is pathetic. Perhaps because he's the only great fighter than Floyd has ever faced? Ha it doesn't even register.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
            No, they kept him away from good counter punchers..thats why he always cried about movement..same thing GGG is now crying about
            Barrera, great fighter, excellent counter puncher. Same with Morales.

            You should already know this I don't get why you keep needing me to educating you on the basic knowledge of recent Boxing. Also, what's GGG got to do with this? You are as insecure and obsessed with him as you are about your man crash.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
              Because he had barely gotten used to carrying 135 pounds. You gradually move through weight classes and get settled at a division.

              Your trying to big up Mayweather's win over Marquez is pathetic. Perhaps because he's the only great fighter than Floyd has ever faced? Ha it doesn't even register.
              Jmm was a tune up for Floyd..lol

              Oscar
              Cotto
              Canelo
              Corrales
              Castillo
              Judah
              Hernendez
              Hatton
              Pacquiao
              Mosley

              all rank higher..that was light work

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              • #27
                Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                Barrera, great fighter, excellent counter puncher. Same with Morales.

                You should already know this I don't get why you keep needing me to educating you on the basic knowledge of recent Boxing. Also, what's GGG got to do with this? You are as insecure and obsessed with him as you are about your man crash.
                i was clearly speaking on his 147 run

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
                  Jmm was a tune up for Floyd..lol

                  Oscar
                  Cotto
                  Canelo
                  Corrales
                  Castillo
                  Judah
                  Hernendez
                  Hatton
                  Pacquiao
                  Mosley

                  all rank higher..that was light work
                  They are better fighters than Marquez?

                  You've lost your mind.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
                    Jmm was a tune up for Floyd..lol

                    Oscar
                    Cotto
                    Canelo
                    Corrales
                    Castillo
                    Judah
                    Hernendez
                    Hatton
                    Pacquiao
                    Mosley

                    all rank higher..that was light work
                    Marquez ranks ahead of all the guys all-time apart from maybe Pacquaio. Those are the only two great fighters he shared the ring with and Marquez was too small and Pacquaio was washed up.

                    Not that Oscar and Mosley were not washed up because they were, but they aren't great fighters same for Cotto.

                    Castillo (who also beat Floyd) is not a great fighter nor is Corrales. Judah was far from great and coming off a bad loss to a C level fighter. Hatton lol. Canelo was green and unproven up to that point and at a b.s weight. Hernandez was cool but not a great fighter either.

                    Like I said a bunch of solid wins but nothing special at all.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                      They are better fighters than Marquez?

                      You've lost your mind.
                      Well Floyd beat him to..so????

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