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Old 04-27-2019, 04:20 PM #171
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Danny Garcia was the headline fighter for a fight that was aired in primetime on FOX in the US, featured on ITV in the UK, and sold most of the tickets at Dignity Health (from the looks/sound of it, there were maybe 6000+ in the 8500-seat venue), and you honestly believe that Danny Garcia only got $1m for the fight? lol

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Them stands for the tennis court section of the Home Depot Center look empty as hell. The boss of Swift Promotions did a great job
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Old 04-27-2019, 04:51 PM #172
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Neither of these two have any personality - there is going to have to be something that gets the fight off the ground and it's look like it will attempts to inject (white) racism even though both are black. Arum and Spence both on the same page this week. I guess
Say what you want about Spence's personality (or lack of personality if that's your view), Spence is getting the monster push and has been getting it since before he proved to merit it, tbh.

Every pro fight he's had being televised, the broadcast insinuations of Spence giving everyone (including Floyd) that work in the gym, the hesitance of everyone else to fight him and for that to be known, the feature after the gold medal basketball game, the co-sign of Jerry Jones, being figuratively adopted by New York and Dallas, the GQ feature, the soft piece profiles of him and his family, and now taking all that national/international effort to try and make Spence a superstar in Dallas.

All without having to play the coon, or the savage, or whatever other ridiculousness; Spence simply is himself, with the machine putting the best and brightest light on Spence's story.
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Old 04-27-2019, 04:57 PM #173
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Spence is speaking the truth, but let Spence or Crawford lose to Porter, Thurman, or DSG and their stock will hit the ground hard..

I don't see how Spence or Crawford can claim anything because neither one of them haven't faced elite comp.

Elite comp is when u walk in the ring in a 50/50 fight which neither one of them ever did..

Best WW is Thurman because he can say he step up twice and fought elite comp and came out victorious twice
Traveling to Sheffield to fight Kell Brook wasn't an elite fight? Yeah, alright
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:05 PM #174
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Spence sound like he got some hoe in his blood. im disappointed.

how the fck hes gonna take credit for the PPV sales vs an undefeated MEXICAN. we all know mexican-american fans run the ppv market.

just say you dont want that smoke and I'll understand
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:09 PM #175
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Actually this comment is dumb...The Redstone family owns CBS and David Nevins is an executive at Showtime.

They don't own any interest in Haymon Sports and Showtime has a smaller financial relationship with PBC than FOX. Actually FOX was going to get the whole deal, but Haymon decided to let Showtime get 30% -35% of their content.

Your post is silly to say the least. That's like claiming ESPN owns UFC lol
Disagree on the last bit, tbh; with ESPN paying for the ESPN+ deal, buying the regular deal from FOX for ESPN, and now being the sole distributor of PPV on ESPN+, that's actually a bad comparison.

Haymon is a content provider; as things currently stand, he's under obligation to basically deliver 150 shows to Showtime/Fox Sports over the course of the next 4 years, with the quality of the delivered content being such that the price for the next deal goes up higher.

Shonda Rimes did tons of business with ABC; ABC doesn't own any of Rimes' company.
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:17 PM #176
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Bottom line Spence will get schooled when he fights Crawford .I don’t remember SRL worrying about Hearns or Ali worried about Frazier or foreman or Norton how their promoters were treating them or that they would punish these opponents by not fighting them because they were with promoters who were mean and insensitive.The time for Crawford/Spence is now and it leaves room for rematches or a trilogy.Fighting the third fourth best Welterweights or a forty year old man that started out as a flyweight is what al wants no risk and safe money.Those guys didn’t have those pu$$y attitudes but also more importantly anything can happen in boxing losing injuries ect and you’ve left millions on the table not including rematches.You can see with mayweather these guys start getting concerned about their legacy when the end is near and Spence will forever kick himself in the ass if he ducks bud.hes only got two maybe three at the most fights before he moves up to54.
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:19 PM #177
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Disagree on the last bit, tbh; with ESPN paying for the ESPN+ deal, buying the regular deal from FOX for ESPN, and now being the sole distributor of PPV on ESPN+, that's actually a bad comparison.

Haymon is a content provider; as things currently stand, he's under obligation to basically deliver 150 shows to Showtime/Fox Sports over the course of the next 4 years, with the quality of the delivered content being such that the price for the next deal goes up higher.

Shonda Rimes did tons of business with ABC; ABC doesn't own any of Rimes' company.
That's very fair point. What I was thinking but didn't post was that it was like saying FOX formerly owned UFC, but I just went with ESPN lol But you are correct.
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:23 PM #178
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Spence only has better PPV numbers because of Mikey. Letís see how he does next go around. Funny to see Spence fans agreeing that Bud doesnít deserve 50% based on comparable earnings, yet the felt Wilder deserves 50% against AJ. PBC fan boys.
The UK market has a cap of ~$45m in payouts on a fight; Wilder-Joshua has enough heat to clear $70m-$100m now, with the current potential cap on the US market being tenfold what is possible in the UK. So yes, Wilder getting damn near 50/50 in the US isnt some slight. Apples to oranges.

Both Spence and Crawford staged fights in the US, both fights were PPV, but Crawford's fight is tracking to have drawn maybe half of what Spence's event drew. Apples to apples.
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:41 PM #179
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They wonít come anywhere near Floyd/PAC numbers. And Manny and Floyd had already done their own million-plus PPVs prior, and the split was 60/40. Wilder is nowhere near AJ in terms of earning potential. AJ can continue fighting for $20M per fight against whoever, while Wilder will go back to his $2M paydays unless he can get a rematch wiht Fury.

Getting back to Crawford, he has been earning 3x what Spence earns, and this is a 50/50 fight. In terms of drawing power, skill and potential earnings. Spence is blowing smoke in order to avoid Crawford.
Errol Spence Jr gets a piece of everything for the fights where he's the feature fighter; US TV, live event, UK TV, etc. (For sure for the last 5 fights, but arguably for the last 7)

If you honestly think that Spence Jr is clearing a third of what Crawford is clearing, you're a fool.
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Old 04-27-2019, 05:51 PM #180
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These guys ainít fighting no time soon. **** like This is why boxing has fell off so much.
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