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Old 04-23-2019, 06:23 PM #31
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if hearn can prove/confirm he was discussing 6.5 and ready to send a contract to team ortiz then i will retract this

until then common sense/logic is on the side of team ortiz
If I'm Ortiz I have to take almost any offer from AJ. It's a once in a lifetime fight, especially at his age.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:42 PM #32
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Ortiz said a couple of months ago.

Ill fight you for just about any money you offer me."

So he was lying.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:51 PM #33
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Ortiz and co were stunting thinking they will ever get another crack at Joshua even with his low ball offer it would have still been his biggest pay day ever. He should have taken it.
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:55 PM #34
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Ortiz and co were stunting thinking they will ever get another crack at Joshua even with his low ball offer it would have still been his biggest pay day ever. He should have taken it.
the point isnt what ortiz has made or what would be his highest purse

the point is hearn set the market price for this fight....if anything ortiz is more known to the world audience....and was/is ranked higher than miller

if miller is worth that...than ortiz is worth that...no less

but hearn is going to take a mike hunter and pay him 2 mil or something because they dont want to fight ortiz plain and simple

hearn set the market price ....and he wants to lowball now....ortiz fought a FOTY year candidate in brooklyn against a top 2-3 HW and you wanna pay him less than miller? lol
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:59 PM #35
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the point isnt what ortiz has made or what would be his highest purse

the point is hearn set the market price for this fight....if anything ortiz is more known to the world audience....and was/is ranked higher than miller

if miller is worth that...than ortiz is worth that...no less

but hearn is going to take a mike hunter and pay him 2 mil or something because they dont want to fight ortiz plain and simple

hearn set the market price ....and he wants to lowball now....ortiz fought a FOTY year candidate in brooklyn against a top 2-3 HW and you wanna pay him less than miller? lol
Ortiz asked for the fight and said he would accept just about any offer.

What Miller was or wasn't going to earn is irrelevant. Ortiz got what he asked for and turned it down.
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Ortiz said a couple of months ago.

Ill fight you for just about any money you offer me."

So he was lying.
the problem is robbie...what you dont understand is...hearn set the market price for this fight

ortiz is more known to world audience..was in a FOTY candidate against a top 2-3 HW in ny....

now if hearn had gone to ortiz a couple months ago and offered him 4 mil? maybe thats a different story

but hearn set the market price for this fight.....it was public knowledge what miller was getting...so the cat is out and ortiz is worth at least that....i wouldnt say more...but def not less

its market value...had hearn gone right to ortiz to negotiate a fight a couple of months ago he could have offered anything....but ortiz is more known and ranked higher than miller.....

its called market price......ortiz is not worth less than miller....michael hunter is...thats why youll get that fight and hunter will get half of what miller gets if hes lucky
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:06 PM #37
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Ortiz asked for the fight and said he would accept just about any offer.

What Miller was or wasn't going to earn is irrelevant. Ortiz got what he asked for and turned it down.
manny pac said lets fight for charity...grow up and get real...no one if fighting for free or for charity

if hearn had gone straight to ortiz it would be different..maybe 4 would have gotten it done...but it got out that miller is getting 6.5 and ortiz is worth no less than him...learn what a market is....arent you known to be a minor? wasnt it revelead? you prob know nothing about markets and money

so enjoy aj/mike hunter......get a grip
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:10 PM #38
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heres ortiz months ago "ill take just about anything you offer"

hearn does not offer ortiz anything or contact him about a fight

hearn goes to miller and signs the fight...for miller to make 6.5

miller fails test...they now need opponent....ortiz wants what miller was getting

what ortiz said a couple of months ago means nothing because they never tried to negotiate with ortiz months ago and it was now known what hearn set the market at....grow up robbie you little virgin peon
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manny pac said lets fight for charity...grow up and get real...no one if fighting for free or for charity

if hearn had gone straight to ortiz it would be different..maybe 4 would have gotten it done...but it got out that miller is getting 6.6 and ortiz is worth no less than him

so enjoy aj/mike hunter......get a grip
Ortiz said it after the Miller fight was already signed.

Ortiz got what he asked for and turned it down. You can try and twist it how you like.

Now we've established Ortiz is a liar your thread title looks kind of stupid doesn't it.

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Ortiz said it after the Miller fight was already signed.

Ortiz got what he asked for ans turned it down. You can try an twist it how you like.

Now we've established Ortiz is a liar your thread title looks kind of stupid doesn't it.
common sense tells us you cant offer a more known fighter, with a FOTY type fight against a top 3 HW, less than you are offering jarrell miller......hearn set the market.....offering less than what he offered miller is insulting and a way to kill the chance

which is exactly what eddie wants...he wants virgin fgts like you to believe he tried when he insulted someone else again

DAZN offered wilder more than twice hearns best offer while telling eddie to "sit this one out...we will handle it"....and others have come out talking about hearns notorious lowballing LOL
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