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Old 12-17-2015, 10:38 AM #11
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Not at all.
He was a good fighter don't get me wrong.
But hall of famer no! And ATG? No way.
im not saying you but.....
Most people even hard core fans pay little attention to the weight classes below 135 and don't really know the fighters or have seen them fight for that matter.



why not? He has a better resume than some fighters in the hall of fame and had more talent

Donaire was also exciting, had some wars and knockouts of the year, fighter of the year and other accolades

He sure has a better resume than Arturo Gatti, Ray Mancini, Barry Mcguigan, Jeff fenech, rocky graziano, igemar johannson etc.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:44 AM #12
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im not saying you but.....
Most people even hard core fans pay little attention to the weight classes below 135 and don't really know the fighters or have seen them fight for that matter.



why not? He has a better resume than some fighters in the hall of fame and had more talent

Donaire was also exciting, had some wars and knockouts of the year, fighter of the year and other accolades

He sure has a better resume than Arturo Gatti, Ray Mancini, Barry Mcguigan, Jeff fenech, rocky graziano, igemar johannson etc.
I'll give you that. Donaire was definitely exciting and is in my top ten Exciting fighters to watch. But he never really drew the
masses like Mancini, or Gatti did.

Donaire is great. Love the kid, but as I stated earlier he was fed a lot of "top ten" guys who weren't really that great. Arce fight was a joke. So was the Vasquez fight. The Vic rematch was pointless and Nishioka came clearly to catch a paycheck. I can't see those as decent wins.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:44 AM #13
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HOF'er for sure.

Doniare at 112-118 was incredible.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:48 AM #14
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After beating Montiel and Marquez good but not HOF worthy Victories he didn't do much. Yes Wilfredo Jr. was a champ, but this kid was a champ only because the amount of belts available. This kid was an amateur posing as a professional. And Arce? common arce was done back in 2009. Nishioka clearly was done and looking to cash in with a fight here in America. Although he beat Narvaez by UD that fight showed just how limited Donaire really was. He couldn't do anything once someone took away his best punch. Once someone could take his power away he had no plan B.
I think his overall quality of competition is pretty good.

Nonito is a puncher-boxer.....a counterpuncher with power, who can box.....after he moved past 115 he depended on his left hook to much, probably fed into his own height and dispensed with his jab and combinations


with success at multiple weights, fighter of the year, knockout of the year, upset of the year, third Asian to become a 3 weight champion and being in exciting fights, he is deserving of it in my view
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:53 AM #15
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I'll give you that. Donaire was definitely exciting and is in my top ten Exciting fighters to watch. But he never really drew the
masses like Mancini, or Gatti did.

Donaire is great. Love the kid, but as I stated earlier he was fed a lot of "top ten" guys who weren't really that great. Arce fight was a joke. So was the Vasquez fight. The Vic rematch was pointless and Nishioka came clearly to catch a paycheck. I can't see those as decent wins.
the hall of fame puts to much weight and emphasis on this and not enough on resume, level of competition and talent

Everyone he fought wasn't a joke, he fought a lot of champions/titlists back to back and moving up in weight

Naseem Hamed was eligible to be in the hall since 2007 and just got in(im sure him being Muslim, British, and loudmouth didn't help, even though none of that should even be considered) but someone like Gatti who was never elite in any weight class gets in because he was in wars and "exciting"....now that's bull to me


Hell Diego Corrales should've been in the hall of fame before Gatti, he actually beat elite fighters, lineal champion at 135 and multiple belts at 130 and 135. He fought in the greatest title fight I've ever seen live.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:55 AM #16
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I'll give you that. Donaire was definitely exciting and is in my top ten Exciting fighters to watch. But he never really drew the
masses like Mancini, or Gatti did.

Donaire is great. Love the kid, but as I stated earlier he was fed a lot of "top ten" guys who weren't really that great. Arce fight was a joke. So was the Vasquez fight. The Vic rematch was pointless and Nishioka came clearly to catch a paycheck. I can't see those as decent wins.
did you watch his fights with Montiel, Darchinyan 1, Moruti Mthalane, and Sidorenko?
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:59 AM #17
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Yes. One they let Hamed in anybody can get in.
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Once they let Hamed in a case can be made for any C-class fighters. Hamed faced one fighter at the elite level, got schooled, and quit.
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HOF, but not ATG.
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