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Old 06-20-2019, 10:12 AM #31
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I do. Putting a niche sport on a niche app is bad for the sport.
At least some posters are “trill.”

Btw, “niche” is specifically reserved to be low key. Since its growing and in markets worldwide, DAZN in theory is making it a priority to commercialize Boxing. For example, try selling the NHL in Indonesia...
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:14 AM #32
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Stop deflecting your dumb azzz flip flopped long before skipper said anything. So again answer the question once and for all is giving out deals and free trials good or bad? Please clear that up once and for all now. I'll wait on your answer.

And how do you know how many subscribers they have? You lied for months about how many they had and were proven wrong after the Canelo fight. The fact is DAZN doesn't release monthly or weekly updates on how many subscribers they have as a company or any of their individual countries they are in. There wasn't a press release when they hit 500K subscribers and when they hit 1M subscribers. All this info and data is under lock and key and we only get drips of info in a random interview or off the record vague numbers. Which by the way is par for the course for ESPN+ and all these other subscription services. For all we know they already have 1M US subscribers. Just like nobody knew when they have over 500K US subscribers. We only knew they were close to 1M subscribers a couple weeks before the Canelo fight and Skipper said he was planning to hit 1M subscribers in June and never said we will release a press release on the day we hit 1M which they haven't done in any other country they are in despite other countries having more subscribers then the US does. My point is the lack of info or transparency isn't a sign of good or bad because frankly all these subscription services don't have to release any data it's private info and it's a competitive advantage to not release info. You went from saying they are doing bad and will sell the company because they don't even have 100K subscribers weeks before the Canelo fight and were proven wrong to now well they haven't released a press conference that they at 1M subscribers so they doing bad. WTF lol
I'm not about to read all that nonsense. All I'll say is they didn't get the 1 mil subs. They went back to the free trial to stop the churn. And HBO boxing is dead like I told you it would be years ago when you would type walls of text like this one to try and prove me wrong. Next!
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:22 AM #33
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I'm not about to read all that nonsense. All I'll say is they didn't get the 1 mil subs. They went back to the free trial to stop the churn. And HBO boxing is dead like I told you it would be years ago when you would type walls of text like this one to try and prove me wrong. Next!
I'm waiting....You said for years Showtime giving away free trials is great way to advertise and keep people on showtime. Then when DAZN did it you said you see it means they are doing "bad" and nobody will subscribe. Then flip flopped when they stopped giving free trials because you said they doing "bad" and they need money forcing you to pay said they will likely sell the company LMAO

Then flip flopped again today saying you see they are doing "bad" giving offers to give you free months if you continue paying for DAZN. So which is it fool? We are all waiting for you answer are free trials good or bad?

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Old 06-20-2019, 10:23 AM #34
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And HBO boxing is dead like I told you it would be years ago when you would type walls of text like this one to try and prove me wrong. Next!
Lol. Your ego..

Your sign up date is Q1 2016. Steve Kim was already back in 2015 complaining about HBO’s budget demise. Isn’t obvious year after year with its budget depleting and its main stars leaving inevitable?

Why do you think industry hated Al Haymon and Schaefer for stealing fighters in desaturating HBO/GBP? Same thing with Top Rank leaving HBO.

I heard Haymon selling PBC for $7.89 cents? Is that true?
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:26 AM #35
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Lol. Your ego..

Your sign up date is Q1 2016. Steve Kim was already back in 2015 complaining about HBO’s budget demise. Isn’t obvious year after year with its budget depleting and its main stars leaving inevitable?

Why do you think industry hated Al Haymon and Schaefer for stealing fighters in desaturating HBO/GBP? Same thing with Top Rank leaving HBO.

I heard Haymon selling PBC for $7.89 cents? Is that true?
Dunny knows what I'm talking about that's why he never denies it. IDGAF what Kim said. I don't follow or read that racist.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:26 AM #36
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The title thread is a bit misleading because ESPN + is not even available worldwide or globally. It's only available in the U.S. While on the other hand, DAZN is available globally, in more than nine countries abroad.
Indeed. In fact with some real rough and ready estimating (population coverage apx 325 mil for ESPN and 850 mil for DAZN) the $ gross numbers are fairly comparable / capita coverage.

Ain't got a horse here but I dislike it when data is used in a misleading way whether that was the intent here or not.

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Old 06-20-2019, 10:30 AM #37
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All I'll say is they didn't get the 1 mil subs.
So show me a link to your source on how many subscribers they have today? I'll wait because I can't find any BUT you the only person who knows right? Just like weeks before the Canelo fight you said they only have about 100K subscribers which was PROVEN to be a lie. But I'm trying to figure out how you moved the bar so fast from 100K to whether or not they are at 1M so fast lol Kind of like how you moved the bar from Showtime giving away 3 months of Showtime for free if you buy a PPV or Showtime offering you free months if you cancel being good to now offering you free months if you continue paying for DAZN bad?

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This isn't really saying much. In their best month ever with Canelo fighting, they only made $11.5 million?

I bet ESPN made more than that the month Dillashaw fought in just the US
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This is good for DAZN. Any info on how many US subscriptions DAZN currently has?

Interesting that ESPN has significantly more percentage of their revenues from the USA than DAZN.
i think that will go up once they get a chance to do NFL.....

I think thatll be another 2 years or so cuz of a renewed contract I think with Fox.... I dont even think they are gonna redo the nfl sunday ticket on direct tv deal
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I'm waiting....You said for years Showtime giving away free trials is great way to advertise and keep people on showtime. Then when DAZN did it you said you see it means they are doing "bad" and nobody will subscribe. Then flip flopped when they stopped giving free trials because you said they doing "bad" and they need money forcing you to pay said they will likely sell the company LMAO

Then flip flopped again today saying you see they are doing "bad" giving offers to give you free months if you continue paying for DAZN. So which is it fool? We are all waiting for you answer are free trials good or bad?

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According to Espinoza the free trials were good for Showtime

According to Skipper the free trials weren't good for DAZN

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So show me a link to your source on how many subscribers they have today? I'll wait because I can't find any BUT you the only person who knows right? Just like weeks before the Canelo fight you said they only have about 100K subscribers which was PROVEN to be a lie. But I'm trying to figure out how you moved the bar so fast from 100K to whether or not they are at 1M so fast lol Kind of like how you moved the bar from Showtime giving away 3 months of Showtime for free if you buy a PPV or Showtime offering you free months if you cancel being good to now offering you free months if you continue paying for DAZN bad?

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DAZN has said they'll release/talk about the numbers if they are good

I can't find any numbers for the GGG fight....
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