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Old 03-26-2019, 03:30 PM #21
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Espinosa, Shelly and Wilder (with Haymon's influence) talk like a promoters and act like promoters but they don't actually make offers worth a dam. They kick back and demand real promoters make them offers and then find creative ways to reject the offer.

I won't even mention "fake 50 mil offer" that's been thoroughly debunked.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:34 PM #22
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NEW YORK Stephen Espinoza wants to believe Bob Arum. He really does. Until Arum acts upon what he has discussed regarding a Deontay Wilder-Tyson Fury rematch, though, Espinoza expects that'll Fury will fight someone other than Wilder next if Fury defeats Tom Schwarz on June 15 in Las Vegas. Espinoza expected a second Wilder-Fury fight to take place May 18 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn.
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yep

and the same with Arum 2.0 (Hearn)

talk is cool..... but action is better

we should all know the difference between words and action, so we should all easily be able to read the bullshlt artists

but..... no, there are precious individuals with no instincts and no feel for the game who will happily log onto boxingscene to make the usual assurances LMAO
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:08 PM #23
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Arum doesnt want this fight anytime soon.
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:08 PM #24
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Bob doesn't have a working or business relationship with Al Haymon. Is one of the major reasons why those fights haven't been made. Another reason is that Bob likes to keep everything in house. He won't co-promote unless there's a purse bid involved. So unless Wilder signs with ESPN, I don't see that fight happening anytime soon.
Top Rank has done business with Al Haymon
Arum also stated ESPN is willing to co promote future events
Where have you been?
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:22 PM #25
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I won't even mention "fake 50 mil offer" that's been thoroughly debunked.
Debunked how? Hearn and Joshua both said it was real. Showtime said it was real. Why wouldn't it have been real? You don't think Showtime can afford to put up 50 million for a PPV?
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Old 03-26-2019, 10:25 PM #26
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Team Wilder care, thats why they are trying to spin the false narrative to the public that the Breazeale fight is on free tv out of the kindness of their hearts.
Has nothing to do with kindness of heart. Has to do with good will and trying to continue to build your following.
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Old 03-27-2019, 12:51 AM #27
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No it has everything to do with the fact it isn't a PPV worth fight. Its not that complicated. The same reason all his other 40 plus fights bar Fury weren't on PPV. Wilder isn't a PPV attraction.
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:15 AM #28
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Wilder already turned down $100 million...what's that tell you?
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:21 AM #29
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Debunked how? Hearn and Joshua both said it was real. Showtime said it was real. Why wouldn't it have been real? You don't think Showtime can afford to put up 50 million for a PPV?
That's funny, showtime said they never made a 50 million dollar offer.

What we do know for sure is that Wilder was offered 100 million and turned it down, that we know for certain.
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Old 03-27-2019, 03:34 AM #30
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That's funny, showtime said they never made a 50 million dollar offer.

What we do know for sure is that Wilder was offered 100 million and turned it down, that we know for certain.
Showtime didn't make the offer, but they said the offer was real. Everyone knows Deontay sent the offer, not Showtime. You're just playing silly semantics.

We know for sure the 100 million and the 50 million were turned down. We know both for certain. We don't know the contractual details that may have caused them to be turned down, but both were real offers.
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