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Old 07-22-2016, 02:42 PM #11
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LOL "white collar crime" being the new diversion since the BLM movement backfired and made everyone look at whos committing blue collar crime.

The vast, vast majority of white collar crime is business-to-business so unless you own massive shares of silicon valley companies involved in antitrust lawsuits it's doubtful "white collar crime" statistics affect you at all and you're likely just another lazy bum who wants all of your debt arbitrarily forgiven.

Broke liberal junkies (the people least likely to own a business) are the ones who whine the most about white collar crime. Another monolith of irony.

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I was just saying I liked warren. she and hillary despise each other. I didn't think she'd be the pick because of that.
how can you like and more importantly trust a person who is willing to lie about something as tripe as her ethnic background?

if she's willing to lie about that,

you think you can trust her when millions of dollars are on the line when wall street strats shoving money in her face???

of course you cant.


this free college stuff is pure window dressing. they will give you some self serving college coupon and stab you in the back later on with those costs.

nothing is free in this world.

it will cost you sooner or later on the back end.
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how can you like and more importantly trust a person who is willing to lie about something as tripe as her ethnic background?

if she's willing to lie about that,

you think you can trust her when millions of dollars are on the line when wall street strats shoving money in her face???

of course you cant.


this free college stuff is pure window dressing. they will give you some self serving college coupon and stab you in the back later on with those costs.

nothing is free in this world.

it will cost you sooner or later on the back end.
I know the story. That is scott brown BS.

Affordable college is reasonable. the top universities and colleges have such vast endowments that costs do not have to be so high.

As we move into a more technological society and economy, the country benefits from getting more students graduate college. if costs are down students have a better chance of graduating.

I like elizabeth warren. I would be significantly more enthused if she were the woman running for President and not Hillary.

As of this post, My likely vote for Hillary will be a reaction to last night and the fact she will keep most of Obama's policies in place, not because I like her.

I absolutely hate feeling like this.
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College tuition is essentially free in the US unless your parents are wealthy and you're under 23 (thus still part of their family). Otherwise federal+state aid should cove everything. In California you get $11,000 (not loans -- free money you never repay) per year in FAFSA+State, which exceeds the cost of tuition. Standard aid packages may be less in other states but tuition as well.

What people are really asking for is taxpayer funded apartment rent so they can dodge loans for non-academic expenses.

I already have buddies who graduated from college with a profit of $10,000-$20,000 by collecting aid and grants while living at home. If they increase it even more and cover apartment rent I don't see the point of ever graduating. I'll quit my job and reenroll.

Did you ever go to college Dunn or is this an observational opinion similar to your views on "white collar crime", something that as a dirty liberal BLM bum you will never even encounter?

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College tuition is essentially free in the US unless your parents are wealthy and you're under 23 (thus still part of their family). Otherwise federal+state aid should cove everything. In California you get $11,000 (not loans -- free money you never repay) per year in FAFSA+State, which exceeds the cost of tuition. Standard aid packages may be less in other states but tuition as well.

What people are really asking for is taxpayer funded apartment rent so they can dodge loans for non-academic expenses.

I already have buddies who graduated from college with a profit of $10,000-$20,000 by collecting aid and grants while living at home. If they increase it even more and cover apartment rent I don't see the point of ever graduating. I'll quit my job and reenroll.

Did you ever go to college Dunn or is this an observational opinion similar to your views on "white collar crime", something that as a dirty liberal BLM bum you will never even encounter?
Yes I graduated college. did you? I was very fortunate my parents could afford it. Then I paid my own way through graduate school., no loans, no grants/scholarships.

I value affordable university/college because a number of friends had to leave because they and their parents couldn't afford it.

Not letting wall street and big banks play around with my money is important. Aren't you concerned about your investments?

I am not liberal nor a BLM member. I believe many members of BLM are college students.
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Kaine?!!??

Wake up people,kaine was the first person to commit murder

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Yes I graduated college. did you? I was very fortunate my parents could afford it. Then I paid my own way through graduate school., no loans, no grants/scholarships.

I value affordable university/college because a number of friends had to leave because they and their parents couldn't afford it.

Not letting wall street and big banks play around with my money is important. Aren't you concerned about your investments?

I am not liberal nor a BLM member. I believe many members of BLM are college students.
Yeah and I graduated with minimal debt. As mentioned some of my friends graduated with a profit.

When did your friends to go college? Federal and state grants require the submission of a single form for tuition to be covered. After that you should be able to cover cheap shared rent with a part time job. I think the cutoff is your parents making $80,000+ per year or so, then they're expected to pay your tuition.

I see these news stories about "Suzy accumulated $100,000 in debt for her bachelor's degree", do the math and she must have lived in a 3,000 sq. ft. penthouse and lived exclusively on sushi. Or she paid out-of-pocket private college tuition she was underqualified for when she could have attended her second choice for free.

Perhaps you're not "liberal" but a black power historical revisionist and sworn Democrat is definitely "far-left".

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Yeah and I graduated with minimal debt. As mentioned some of my friends graduated with a profit.

When did your friends to go college? Federal and state grants require the submission of a single form for tuition to be covered. After that you should be able to cover cheap shared rent with a part time job. I think the cutoff is your parents making $80,000+ per year or so, then they're expected to pay your tuition.

I see these news stories about "Suzy accumulated $100,000 in debt for her bachelor's degree", do the math and she must have lived in a 3,000 sq. ft. penthouse and lived exclusively on sushi. Or she paid out-of-pocket private college tuition she was underqualified for when she could have attended her second choice for free.

Perhaps you're not "liberal" but a black power historical revisionist and sworn Democrat is definitely "far-left".
late 80's and early 90's. I have a 2 kids under 10 so them getting to go to school for free would be a tremendous help. We are looking to move money into 529 plans but I am looking at possibly spending $500k on college.

She likely just went to an expensive school. I have a friend whose son got into Drexel but it was like $61k a year. They couldn't swing it so his son is in Community college for 2 years , staying at home, then will transfer. I hate it when talented kids can't afford to go to school.

LMFAO!! I am not as far left as you assume. I am a centrist democrat. Agreeing with BLM that police brutality and unnecessary killing of black men by police is an issue doesn't make me a black power historical revolutionist dude.

College is just too expensive for middle, working and poor families.
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No surprise here. I've predicted Kaine would be the pick for the last few weeks now. Hillary and Trump are both polarizing enough being at the top of the ticket, so it's really no surprise they'd pick boring white guys to try to lend the illusion of stability to their respective tickets.

Kaine isn't nearly liberal enough for my liking and I'd rather she pick somebody like Tom Perez or Xavier Becerra, but it's a smart pick nonetheless. It doesn't do anything to energize the Bernie crowd, but it does likely deliver Virginia to Clinton and eat in to some of Trump's support with working class white guys.

Kaine is ridiculously popular with blue collar whites in the state of Virginia. Don't ask me why, but I live here and I know how much support he has here. Plus he's actually run a state as a Governor, which is always nice to have in a VP pick. He's also done a bunch of Catholic missionary work and speaks fluent Spanish.

Anybody who is surprised by her not picking Warren or Sanders just doesn't understand politics. It was never going to be a smart move to have either of them give up their very influential positions in the Senate where they can be strong allies in voting for Clinton's proposals to take what is essentially a worthless job title and cost the Democrats a Senate vote. Especially Warren, whose replacement would be picked by the Republican Governor of MA Charlie Baker - Who would absolutely appoint a Republican replacement until a special election could be held 6 months later where maybe the Dems would win back the seat.

The first rule of picking a VP is "do no harm", and picking Warren or Sanders would've definitely violated that rule. Picking Kaine is smart because he can appeal to a wide group of people from Christians (touting his missionary work), to latinos (speaking fluent Spanish), to working class whites who, like I said, really like the guy for whatever reason.
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late 80's and early 90's. I have a 2 kids under 10 so them getting to go to school for free would be a tremendous help. We are looking to move money into 529 plans but I am looking at possibly spending $500k on college.

She likely just went to an expensive school. I have a friend whose son got into Drexel but it was like $61k a year. They couldn't swing it so his son is in Community college for 2 years , staying at home, then will transfer. I hate it when talented kids can't afford to go to school.

LMFAO!! I am not as far left as you assume. I am a centrist democrat. Agreeing with BLM that police brutality and unnecessary killing of black men by police is an issue doesn't make me a black power historical revolutionist dude.

College is just too expensive for middle, working and poor families.
Care about school and stupid loan forgiveness more than the serious matter at hand

Guess what?? if BLM or terrorist events gets worst there will be no school for your to go
Youll be stuck in yo house holding a freaking gun

And right b4 you say anything

"Hilary will fix everything that Umama started!"

How funny and idiotic is that statement is it?
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