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Did Floyd "retire" in 2007 because he was shook by the 147 division heating up?
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostMosley discussions were after Oscar not before. Floyd did what you said and avoided Mosley and fought Oscar.
Manny was fighting at 130 the year before. People like Floyd and his camp are still bringing that up. So are some of his fans. How can Manny go from 130 to 147 and do what he did.
Now, let's be real. If you are in Manny's camp, you know that you are still uncertain if you can fight true WWs at that time. Not many people would have fought Oscar, Cotto, Clottey and Margarito as their 4 first fights at 147+. So they were cautious but still fought Cotto who beat Mosley! Once they saw that they can handle Cotto, a true WW then they were ready for anyone at WW.
God you guys are like the manti teo of nsb.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostA guy that had 1 fight at LW ducking a WW champ? Is that like Floyd ducking Ward?
Don't you see the irony. The thread starter is accusing Mayweather of avoiding a fight he actually tried to make, stating Mayweather waited until Mosley was faded. This is just factually incorrect.
What we do know is Mosley was prepared to come down to 142lbs to face Pacquiao, was refused then for being too good. Then he was faced when definitely faded.
These are the facts, they are undisputed.
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I never implied that the Mosley refusal took place before the DLH fight. Mosley went to the Wildcard gym and asked for the same opportunity that Oscar had. To this, Roach said "not at 147lbs". When quizzed on this Roach said "because he (Mosley) ain't Oscar. He's too good". So Pacquiao did exactly what the thread starter accused Mayweather of. Waiting until Mosley had completely faded before fighting him.
Mayweather at least tried to make that fight sooner (around 2006). Before he faced DLH. Mosley used the dentist excuse with Larry Merchant.
Yes, Pacquiao faced the Cotto that beat Mosley, but not without a catchweight. And he wouldn't face him again without a catchweight. I'm sure he regrets that decision now though.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostAnyone at top rank wouldve done it. Why are you acting as if manny chose to fight the toughest guy. He just fought tr guys and had cw vs margs and cotto. Could you at least post some semblance of the truth and not embellish what manny did.
God you guys are like the manti teo of nsb.
Manny was fighting at 130 the previous year. Fighting Cotto at 145lbs was like Floyd, who just fought at 154, fighting Ward at 166lbs but people complaining that Floyd asked for a CW. To point out a CW would be absurd. Right?
As for Margarito, he got a bonus of 3lbs as he was fighting at 147lbs for the longest time before then. Even Cotto wanted a CW against Margarito even though he was at 154lbs before and settled for 153! Did you care about Cotto asking for a CW? Do you even remember that?
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Margarito hadn't fought at 147 for nearly 2 years when he faced Pac and he struggled to make the 150 CW. The Hydroxycut in his locker room wasn't there for allergies.
Originally posted by ADP02 View PostAnyone would have fought TR fighters if they were TR fighters? So Floyd fought Margarito and Cotto when he was with TR? Going by what you said, it should have happened as it was so easy to make. Right? But it didn't because Floyd didn't want to take the risk and fight Margarito even though he would have had a great pay day of $8 million.
Manny was fighting at 130 the previous year. Fighting Cotto at 145lbs was like Floyd, who just fought at 154, fighting Ward at 166lbs but people complaining that Floyd asked for a CW. To point out a CW would be absurd. Right?
As for Margarito, he got a bonus of 3lbs as he was fighting at 147lbs for the longest time before then. Even Cotto wanted a CW against Margarito even though he was at 154lbs before and settled for 153! Did you care about Cotto asking for a CW? Do you even remember that?
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostAnyone would have fought TR fighters if they were TR fighters? So Floyd fought Margarito and Cotto when he was with TR? Going by what you said, it should have happened as it was so easy to make. Right? But it didn't because Floyd didn't want to take the risk and fight Margarito even though he would have had a great pay day of $8 million.
Manny was fighting at 130 the previous year. Fighting Cotto at 145lbs was like Floyd, who just fought at 154, fighting Ward at 166lbs but people complaining that Floyd asked for a CW. To point out a CW would be absurd. Right?
As for Margarito, he got a bonus of 3lbs as he was fighting at 147lbs for the longest time before then. Even Cotto wanted a CW against Margarito even though he was at 154lbs before and settled for 153! Did you care about Cotto asking for a CW? Do you even remember that?
Fkoyd was fighting at 135 a year prior to when u want him to fight cotto and margs-so do you give him the same excuse you give manny? Why are you asking hypothetical question? Oh yeah you are trying to justify the unjustifiable.
Cotto and margs has nothing to do with marghs and manny. A bonus of 3 lbs. Wow that's pathetic. All manny did was fight tr promoted opponents without any ped testing. Please don't act like he truly tested himself.
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