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  • #21
    Originally posted by Bloodvenger View Post
    Pacquiao took flush shots from heavy-handed guys like Thurman, Rios, Margarito, Mosley, Oscar, etc and has never come close to ever going down. He actually has a legendary chin.

    Yet little 40year old Marquez who couldn't stop guys like Alvarado, Juarez, Fartchenko, etc was able to knock Manny Pacquiao down, and later put him unconscious with single shots. Why?

    I've always found this scene bizarre.
    marquez unfortunately will always be a victim of the judges. There are fighters who are better than their record, and if you look at tape of marquez you would see that he is very very technically accomplished. One also cannot minimize what it took to do some of the things he accomplished.

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    • #22
      Timing.


      Marquez and Pacquiao fought 3 times before (obviously the 4th fight)


      His feints must be hard to time.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Bloodvenger View Post
        Pacquiao took flush shots from heavy-handed guys like Thurman, Rios, Margarito, Mosley, Oscar, etc and has never come close to ever going down. He actually has a legendary chin.

        Yet little 40year old Marquez who couldn't stop guys like Alvarado, Juarez, Fartchenko, etc was able to knock Manny Pacquiao down, and later put him unconscious with single shots. Why?

        I've always found this scene bizarre.
        Forward momentum, against Marquez he was moving forward when he got hit. Also, Keef wasn't throwing with any kind of power behind the punches for some reason.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Wizardsh View Post
          Okay idiot who has no clue about boxing, who probably never watched jmm beside the pac fights. Jmm has 1punch ko power, there is a reason why his nickname is dynamite in Spanish, jmm was koeing fighters his entire career, if you gave jmm the chance to land a timed flush punch it’s over. Pac learned that the hard way. This is to all the idiots who are posting about jmm power just watch his dam fights and you will shut the hell up about his punching power

          Dinamita is also his name, not dynamite.

          Do you call Alvrez Red?

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          • #25
            how was rustico torrecampo? marquez and torrecampo happen to be the 2 greatest fighters in boxing history

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
              Memo + talent + PEDS = KO
              Isn't Pacquiao a known PED user?

              Do you think that on that particular night of the KO Pacquiao wasn't on them and that why he lost?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                Dinamita is also his name, not dynamite.

                Do you call Alvrez Red?
                no, we call him clenelo.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Pechorin View Post
                  Isn't Pacquiao a known PED user?

                  Do you think that on that particular night of the KO Pacquiao wasn't on them and that why he lost?
                  known ped user? i would say hes a rumored ped user with no evidence of guilt. floyd and canelo are known ped users.

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                  • #29
                    PEDs. Marquez refused VADA testing in a rematch, and he decided to retire after bombing Alvarado in their fight. He underwent a serious transformation with a known PED peddler. PEDs didn't give him the timing or technique to land the punches he did, but they definitely added power.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Pechorin View Post
                      Isn't Pacquiao a known PED user?

                      Do you think that on that particular night of the KO Pacquiao wasn't on them and that why he lost?
                      Take a step back man.
                      Pacquiao is 40 now, he’s about at that age to grow new mass and a rash on his chest.

                      Did you not see Vanes’ tweet on Heredia, the guy offered him steroids and Vanes outed him. Pacquiao a “known” juicer is a joke of a statement. Marquez was definitely on juice, that first right hand did not land perfectly, but that’s just how hard Marquez was swinging, he actually Momentarily KO’d Pacquiao even off that shot.

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