Two greatest boxers in history (based on talent)

[493dart]

Lol. He’s not even the best American boxer. Hunter and Ruiz will beat him.

i was just talking about this--Ruiz will get inside on wilder, let his hands go. Wilder only has the long range right. Ruiz ko2 .

[Lomadeaux]

Define 'talent'.

[juandabomb]

at the amateur level...if they never went pro then it never happened

[Long jabber]

I vote for james toney and niccolino loche

[PRINCEKOOL]

Muhammad Ali & Roy Jones Junior.

Muhammad Ali was a lazy trainer and for the most part of his career was his own boss, Angelo Dundee seemed to just be his head coach 'And a very good one at that'

I think Archie Moore wanted too train him, but he declined 'I may have actually learnt that fact from this forum.

Other mentions: James Toney, I can remember watching at interview where Freddie Roach stated? All James Toney wanted to do was spar, he was not interested in any other forms of conditioning. I was always impressed when James Toney went to heavyweight, and I liked his fights with John Ruiz & Samuel Peter.

[*Makaveli*]

It takes Alot more than talent to be the greatest

[garfios]

Define 'talent'.

Back then the only difference was the rounds.

[Lomadeaux]

Talent isn't always something you can see or hold onto. The ability to overcome is a talent you can't see all the time. Adapting, overcoming and winning. It's not just speed and power.