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  • #31
    Even the past prime fighters Pac fought is better than just about anything on floyds resume. Past prime morales is better than maidana, guerrero, ortiz, berto, cw nel o etc etc.
    But again barrera was prime. Had been in some tough fights so that means he was battle tested and not green like nelo.
    Having wars don't make you past prime. It may shorten career though. Barrera was prime make no mistake about it. Battle tested and hardened. Learnt from losses and voila on 9 streak win, with win over Prince hamed
    Last edited by hugh grant; 02-19-2020, 12:29 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by IceTrayDaGang View Post
      1-2 hard fights dont mean you out of your prime! wtf??!! in that case, pac was never in his prime then.
      sorry logic doesnt fit your agenda, obviously you never even watched any of barrera's fights, let alone know much about him besides manny beating him.....dude had absolute wars and no fighter is the same after


      performance, reaction time, reflexes, punch resistance, stamina, ability to pull the trigger are whats observed when regarding a fighters prime


      keep fighting the good fight but anyone who actually WATCHED HIS CAREER...knew after 60 fights barrera was not in his prime, thats why beating naseem hamed was such an upset to casual fans and media, they questioned what Barrera had left after those fights......man you probably wasnt even watching boxing in the 90s

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        Even the past prime fighters Pac fought is better than just about anything on floyds resume. Past prime morales is better than maidana, guerrero, ortiz, berto, cw nel o etc etc.
        But again barrera was prime. Had been in some tough fights so that means he was battle tested and not green like nelo.
        Having wars don't make you past prime. It may shorten career though
        morales and Barrera are not p4p better fighters than ODLH, Mosley, or manny himself....add marquez too, sorry hugh

        this thread isnt about mayweather and you have to be an idiot to think someone who has 7 years experience and 40 fights is green, more like he lost to a better fighter

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          True, barrera was on a 8 streak win. Not coming off loss. He was perhaps no1 or 2 pfp.
          Floyd s best win pac, certainly weren't in pr ime, neither was nelo. Far further from prime than morales even

          A lot of dum.bfu.ck weirdos in here.....thanks for posting the obvious

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          • #35
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            True, barrera was on a 8 streak win. Not coming off loss. He was perhaps no1 or 2 pfp.
            And in that streak he beat Naz, Morales and Tapia(let me guess none of them were in their prime either).Some of these threads are ridiculous.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
              Sorry folks but he doesn't...
              and?

              I don't see him running around yelling tbe, whilst making fights with Japanese kickboxers...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                what prime fighter at featherweight is 29 years old and 60 fights in?


                he was a great fighter at the time but not prime.....when he fought kennedy mckinney, morales 1 and the 2 junior jones fights he was prime....he changed his style to prolong his career
                He fought Pacquiao right after he had beaten Morales Tapia and Kelley. He was definitely in his prime.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                  morales and Barrera are not p4p better fighters than ODLH, Mosley, or manny himself....add marquez too, sorry hugh
                  yes and Manny beat those fights as well....

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
                    yes and Manny beat those fights as well....
                    yea, when they were older...and after losses or bad performances...Oscar hadnt fought at 147 in almost a decade and was clearly drained....context please....there is more to boxing than going to boxrec....watch the fights

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pillowfists98 View Post
                      He fought Pacquiao right after he had beaten Morales Tapia and Kelley. He was definitely in his prime.
                      based off beating 2 past prime champions in tapia and kelley? and someone that is his rival and also coming off of wars....nah... just because you can compete at a certain level doesnt mean you are still at your best

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