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  • #91
    Originally posted by -Swizzy- View Post
    forget Warriors, the Clippers are even better than the 96 Bulls.

    As far as accomplishments yes the 96 Bulls were obviously great and the 72 wins + the championship that year is probably the best single year in NBA history. But if you put the Bulls in a time machine and brought them into this era, they would barely be a top 4 team in the East.

    Warriors would not only beat them, they would ANNIHILATE them. Bulls wouldn't know how to defend the Warriors and Warriors would easily shut down the bulls.
    Eh goes both ways. How would the warriors fare in a far more physical game, where you can get away with a lot more defensively speaking? Or even when no coach even dared to play small ball cuz the bigs weren't dead weight and could actually play near the basket, a skill set which some believe is necessary to beat the warriors?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by -Swizzy- View Post
      forget Warriors, the Clippers are even better than the 96 Bulls.

      As far as accomplishments yes the 96 Bulls were obviously great and the 72 wins + the championship that year is probably the best single year in NBA history. But if you put the Bulls in a time machine and brought them into this era, they would barely be a top 4 team in the East.

      Warriors would not only beat them, they would ANNIHILATE them. Bulls wouldn't know how to defend the Warriors and Warriors would easily shut down the bulls.
      You are out of your mind. The Bulls had length at every position just like the Thunder do. You seriously think Green is a better defender and rebounder than Rodman? You really think Jordan, Pippen, Harper weren't big and long enough to contend with GSW around the perimeter? The idea of MJ being easily shut down is laughable.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by INDIFFERENT View Post
        Eh goes both ways. How would the warriors fare in a far more physical game, where you can get away with a lot more defensively speaking? Or even when no coach even dared to play small ball cuz the bigs weren't dead weight and could actually play near the basket, a skill set which some believe is necessary to beat the warriors?
        NBA was no more physical back then even though handchecking was allowed. Players were too meek, unathletic and not as defensively intelligent. Handcheck Curry and Thompson all you want, but you have to catch them first.

        Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
        You are out of your mind. The Bulls had length at every position just like the Thunder do. You seriously think Green is a better defender and rebounder than Rodman? You really think Jordan, Pippen, Harper weren't big and long enough to contend with GSW around the perimeter? The idea of MJ being easily shut down is laughable.
        Length isn't the only thing that determines how good you can defend. The thunder had length in combination with athleticism. What does it matter how tall and long you are if you can't move your feet?

        The best matchup for the Bulls on defense would be Jordan on Klay or Pippen on Klay. And even then Klay would handle them offensively. Jordan was always considered as an amazing defensive player but who did he guard? nobody. The SG position was week af in the 90's. Jordan never had to guard someone even close to Klay's level.

        And who's going to guard Curry? Ron Harper? Steve Kerr? LOL Curry would drop 100 points with his eyes closed.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by -Swizzy- View Post
          NBA was no more physical back then even though handchecking was allowed. Players were too meek, unathletic and not as defensively intelligent. Handcheck Curry and Thompson all you want, but you have to catch them first.

          Length isn't the only thing that determines how good you can defend. The thunder had length in combination with athleticism. What does it matter how tall and long you are if you can't move your feet?

          The best matchup for the Bulls on defense would be Jordan on Klay or Pippen on Klay. And even then Klay would handle them offensively. Jordan was always considered as an amazing defensive player but who did he guard? nobody. The SG position was week af in the 90's. Jordan never had to guard someone even close to Klay's level.

          And who's going to guard Curry? Ron Harper? Steve Kerr? LOL Curry would drop 100 points with his eyes closed.
          oh yeah, the Warriors are so great they're crushing their balls to get out from the ditch that they weren't suppose to be at from the start

          MJ cannot guard close to Klay's level?

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          • #95
            Originally posted by -Swizzy- View Post
            NBA was no more physical back then even though handchecking was allowed. Players were too meek, unathletic and not as defensively intelligent. Handcheck Curry and Thompson all you want, but you have to catch them first.

            Length isn't the only thing that determines how good you can defend. The thunder had length in combination with athleticism. What does it matter how tall and long you are if you can't move your feet?

            The best matchup for the Bulls on defense would be Jordan on Klay or Pippen on Klay. And even then Klay would handle them offensively. Jordan was always considered as an amazing defensive player but who did he guard? nobody. The SG position was week af in the 90's. Jordan never had to guard someone even close to Klay's level.

            And who's going to guard Curry? Ron Harper? Steve Kerr? LOL Curry would drop 100 points with his eyes closed.
            Then why did Boris Diaw have success against Curry on switches? No one can guard stay with Curry. You have to be physical with him and have length. If the Spurs can hold the Warriors to 80 points then the Bulls certainly can. Pippen, Jordan, and Harper would all take turns guarding Curry and Klay.

            The Bulls were fit to play in this era. They had length and athleticism at every position. The only thing they were average at was 3 pt. Shooting and really that's a matter of practice. Teams didn't take 3's as seriously back then. Now it's a point of emphasis.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by MaD vEiN View Post
              Top 3? uhm no

              Despite their record breaking season, they were not at all impressive in the playoffs. They struggled against Portland and fought tooth & nail against OKC.

              '96 Bulls, '86 Celtics, '87 Lakers, '01 Lakers, '67 & '83 Sixers, these were ATG teams that dominate their competition from pre-season all the way to the Finals. Hell, GSW still have to face Cavs in the Finals and from what we've seen, anything can happen.
              What are you talking about? How did they struggle vs Portland? They won the series 4-1 with 3 of the games won by double digits. They just overcame a 3-1 lead to be the ninth team in NBA history to overcome that in history. They set the NBA record for wins in a season with the game being played at the highest level (the game has evolved much more since the old days). OKC is a great team with 2 future hall of famers, and a team who lead the league in rebounding (warriors play small ball). You crazy.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by MaD vEiN View Post
                oh yeah, the Warriors are so great they're crushing their balls to get out from the ditch that they weren't suppose to be at from the start

                MJ cannot guard close to Klay's level?
                Exactly, Klay was having a terrible time with Roberson on him before he got in foul trouble.

                Roberson is a 6'7 athletic guard. Sound familiar?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Lords View Post
                  What are you talking about? How did they struggle vs Portland? They won the series 4-1 with 3 of the games won by double digits. They just overcame a 3-1 lead to be the ninth team in NBA history to overcome that in history. They set the NBA record for wins in a season with the game being played at the highest level (the game has evolved much more since the old days). OKC is a great team with 2 future hall of famers, and a team who lead the league in rebounding (warriors play small ball). You crazy.
                  when you're on the brink of being eliminated is usually not a trait of making of a great team. It just shows that regular season is entirely different from the playoffs. The playoffs exposed their flaws and it's very fortunate for them to overcame that near death experience, which none of the other ATG teams i mentioned did experienced

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                  • #99
                    Thread will get a good bump in a couple of weeks.

                    Just a heads up.

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                    • Originally posted by MaD vEiN View Post
                      oh yeah, the Warriors are so great they're crushing their balls to get out from the ditch that they weren't suppose to be at from the start

                      MJ cannot guard close to Klay's level?
                      Learn how to read. I said Jordan never guarded anyone close to Klay's level.

                      Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
                      Then why did Boris Diaw have success against Curry on switches? No one can guard stay with Curry. You have to be physical with him and have length. If the Spurs can hold the Warriors to 80 points then the Bulls certainly can. Pippen, Jordan, and Harper would all take turns guarding Curry and Klay.

                      The Bulls were fit to play in this era. They had length and athleticism at every position. The only thing they were average at was 3 pt. Shooting and really that's a matter of practice. Teams didn't take 3's as seriously back then. Now it's a point of emphasis.
                      Boris Diaw the Curry stopper LOL. Maybe Cavs should find a loophole to get Diaw on their team for the finals. Surely he will shut Curry down. Westbrook couldn't do it, 1st team defenders like CP3 and Avery Bradley couldn't do it, but for sure Diaw will.lol

                      Come one man. Lets have some serious logical arguments and not make up fantasy.
                      Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
                      Exactly, Klay was having a terrible time with Roberson on him before he got in foul trouble.

                      Roberson is a 6'7 athletic guard. Sound familiar?
                      Klay was having such a terrible time with Roberson that he scored 41 points.
                      Last edited by -Swizzy-; 05-31-2016, 03:06 PM.

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