Nate Diaz is all over US talk shows, all over the news. MMA has over taken boxing :(

[Daddy T]

if golovkin was American things would be very different the whole way boxing is organized is pathetic and that's the biggest problem. The top guys keep avoiding each other -- canelo v golovkin would be huge but instead we don't get it thus UFC gets the headlines instead

[Elroy The Great]

boxing is dead again ?!?!?!?!?!?

[MDPopescu]

I read yesterday the fight hadn't sold many tickets

The attendance was of 15,539 and the gate was of $7,692,010... which gives an average of $495 / ticket... Was it bad?

[Weltschmerz]

It's disappointing, in this place they also feel this is front page news on what is supposed to be a boxing website.

[stellen]

i think the fact that there are so many threads right now on boxingscene about the UFC show, really tells a story of the state of boxing at the moment.

Conor McGregor is a media machine though and I think tonight's epic battle will only propel both fighters higher and with that the UFC with it.

Boxing in the past few years has done the complete opposite - create fake fighters and get them to fool the world into thinking that they are true warrior champions ....FFS its 2016, its no longer the early 2000s like what they did in Germany having their champs fight unknown bums (similar to Canelo, etc).

Silly, but the reality is boxing is probably at a point of it being too late to even try and come back. UFC will be the #1 mainstream combat sport very soon.

I think people who start mma topics on a boxing forum should be banned.

[NYC8224]

i think the fact that there are so many threads right now on boxingscene about the UFC show, really tells a story of the state of boxing at the moment.

Conor McGregor is a media machine though and I think tonight's epic battle will only propel both fighters higher and with that the UFC with it.

Boxing in the past few years has done the complete opposite - create fake fighters and get them to fool the world into thinking that they are true warrior champions ....FFS its 2016, its no longer the early 2000s like what they did in Germany having their champs fight unknown bums (similar to Canelo, etc).

Silly, but the reality is boxing is probably at a point of it being too late to even try and come back. UFC will be the #1 mainstream combat sport very soon.

McGregor is popular because he has cool tattoos but the main reason is because how good the UFC advertises him. Like i said, maybe if boxing promoters weren't so worried about protecting an undefeated record, there would be more good fights.

How can anyone take a sport 100% serious when Khan is allowed to risk his life against Canelo? Mismatches like that make it look like the sport is being run by 13 year olds who change the rules as soon as something goes wrong for them. Guys talking **** and dropping challenges only to back off and give up their belts. ****ing joke

[*TonyMontana*]

The attendance was of 15,539 and the gate was of $7,692,010... which gives an average of $495 / ticket... Was it bad?

That's exactly what I read...don't care enough to know if it's good or bad

[BennyST]

Unfortunately it seems that boxing's lack of great fights and stars, due to Floyd's handling of his time at the top and the damp squib that was Pac-May, has caused UFC to really over take boxing.

Their brand is now far stronger than boxing I think, and they're getting all the shine.

Can any American lads speak about the relative hype surrounding each sport on average in the USA?

You think it's Floyd's fault? He has done more for boxing's popularity than just about any other boxing star since the 90's.

It's boxing as a whole, and the business men behind it. Floyd has very little to do with the problems boxing has with the way it handles fighters and their PR and media.

UFC is just more up with current stuff, and they need to be because they still arent competing with boxing in terms of big PPV's. Getting there, but not yet. Boxing could take a leaf from their book though.

[Mushashi]

UFC is a brand, it's own league, it has structure. The owners have a mandate to keep making that brand stronger and grow it's fanbase, and all their fighters are tied down to that one promoter, so they can't refuse to make the biggest fights possible, it goes against their agenda. As another poster said, they have a high turnover of fighters with many different styles to mix and match, to produce the best fights consistently, you can make your bones fast if you can generate hype and momentum quickly, you don't need to be 10+ years in the game before you headline your first PPV if the fans want it, and they'll pay for it too because they're fans of the BRAND not just specific fighters, they'll support regardless. They also get value for money with stacked undercards.

Whereas boxing is too fragmented, promotion wise, organization wise, it's pretty much the wild west and is free market, neo-liberal capitalism in action. There's no loyalty to the sport as whole because there isn't one unifying umbrella company that oversees the entire sport, just a bunch of disparate states breaking bread with one and other at their convenience to the detriment of fans overall. Boxing will not die, but it needs to clean up its act fast. This new generation of combat sport fans are losing interest, when these baby boomers die out we'll see where boxing stands.

[Dr Rumack]

UFC is a brand, it's own league, it has structure. The owners have a mandate to keep making that brand stronger and grow it's fanbase, and all their fighters are tied down to that one promoter, so they can't refuse to make the biggest fights possible, it goes against their agenda. As another poster said, they have a high turnover of fighters with many different styles to mix and match, to produce the best fights consistently, you can make your bones fast if you can generate hype and momentum quickly, you don't need to be 10+ years in the game before you headline your first PPV if the fans want it, and they'll pay for it too because they're fans of the BRAND not just specific fighters, they'll support regardless. They also get value for money with stacked undercards.

Whereas boxing is too fragmented, promotion wise, organization wise, it's pretty much the wild west and is free market, neo-liberal capitalism in action. There's no loyalty to the sport as whole because there isn't one unifying umbrella company that oversees the entire sport, just a bunch of disparate states breaking bread with one and other at their convenience to the detriment of fans overall. Boxing will not die, but it needs to clean up its act fast. This new generation of combat sport fans are losing interest, when these baby boomers die out we'll see where boxing stands.

Great post. 100% right.

Boxing will never die. But continuing to exist isn't much to brag about. And the fragmentation is the core problem in the sport. It is keeping the sport in the dark ages, in organisational and promotional terms.