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Old 06-14-2019, 06:00 PM #51
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I know there was a ''curse'' predicted about foreigners losing on American soil but, how many non Mexican experts picked Andy to win ?

Did Roach, etc ?

It was a massive upset, hence it being a fluke.
No a fluke is something that was accidently successful. Let's just wait and see what happens in the rematch before calling what happened in the first fight a "fluke." If the rematch is competitive and Joshua wins then Ruiz's winning the first fight wouldn't be a fluke. If Ruiz defeats Joshua in the rematch then you'll have to give the man the respect he is due. The question I have is what will you say about Joshua if he loses the rematch as convincingly as he lost the first fight? If Joshua totally destroys Ruiz in the rematch then I'll agree Ruiz's initial win was a fluke.

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Old 06-14-2019, 06:24 PM #52
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Heíl kill Ruiz in Dec. If a 30% Josh could score a KD against Ruiz despite trying to avoid being hit anyway around his head due to what happened pre-fight. A 100% Josh will kill him. Fu..ck Ruiz and his coach, just enjoy your 6 month because youíll have to retire after December.
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:36 PM #53
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Joshua by UD in a boring fight. Afterwards Ruiz's "fans" will be saying he needs to lose weight.
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:47 PM #54
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That's not what he said at all. He said that Joshua CHOSE to quit and that Joshua (and his true supporters) need to come to grips with that reality. They all need to realize that Joshua could have continued if he really wanted to, but he didn't...

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teddy atlas is a sick prick. he is the oprah winfrey of boxing. he is a sick bas tard. WTF did he ever do to show how tough he is or come back from a beating? guys brains are scrambled bad and he expects them to think of what it will be like 10 years while they are being neaten. I love to punch his face in knock him down a few times and see what he does
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:59 PM #55
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Joshua doesnt have a choice but to take it the amount of money he will lose to take a detour is too much

DAZN had a long term offer lined up for him and I doubt they will want him without the belts same with his sponsors
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:01 PM #56
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. I love to punch his face in knock him down a few times and see what he does
You would end up getting knocked the **** out by an old guy wearing a diaper
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:07 PM #57
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This is definitely a high stakes gamble by Matchroom and Joshua. Both Matchroom's and Joshua's asses are on the line. If AJ loses this immediate rematch to Andy Ruiz, Jr. Then his career is over. It would be ruined and then Matchroom would probably go out of business.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:15 PM #58
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This is definitely a high stakes gamble by Matchroom and Joshua. Both Matchroom's and Joshua's asses are on the line. If AJ loses this immediate rematch to Andy Ruiz, Jr. Then his career is over. It would be ruined and then Matchroom would probably go out of business.
If he loses the rematch then he's not good enough anyway. No point delaying it, taking BS fights and making it harder to get the titles back.
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Old 06-14-2019, 09:10 PM #59
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If he loses the rematch then he's not good enough anyway. No point delaying it, taking BS fights and making it harder to get the titles back.
That's what I'm thinking too boss, but what a lot of "them" are saying, is that delaying the rematch and taking a detour (changing trainers, dropping the entourage, etc.) has certain psychological and technical benefits, that are not gained with an immediate rematch. I'm saying, and guess you are too, that remains to be seen. I will concede that IF the rematch yields another devastating loss for AJ, it COULD be said that a delay or detour would have been well advised.

Public perception seems to be everything to people. Joshua's not all pissed off and going on some eye of the tiger quest, so people perceive his demeanor as, business as usual. Reality is, nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors. Team AJ may know something that the public doesn't know. Pretty much everything is speculation...UNTIL the next fight happens. The proof is in the pudding, as they say, and not always in the public perception. It's easy for Wilder and anyone else with a keyboard or mic in their face, to judge a guy's career by one fight. I understand that's what forums and interviews and such are for, but I'm just sayin'.

I suppose this is just more evidence that we live in a "What have you done for me lately ?" society. Such is life.
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:35 PM #60
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Josh will be ok. The ref stopped him taking too much punishment so he can fight another day.
He didn't take much punishment in that fight so he will be ok. He got knocked down twice more than fury did against wilder essentially, no big deal really.
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