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Old 05-27-2019, 11:25 PM #231
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Ortiz and Fury would be favored to beat anyone on Joshua's record. Wilder beat Ortiz, nearly decapitated Fury and blew out Breazeale faster than Joshua did. Wilder and Fury share the better resumes over Joshua. Joshua is the third best heavyweight in the division, behind Wilder and Fury. It's 50/50 from here on out.
It doesnít work that way tho...itís about who generates the most revenue, and their track records speak for themselves. Itís why Floyd always took the lions share or why ggg took a smaller piece of the pie vs canelo, even tho everyone knew ggg was the guy at mw and had the belts. I wouldnít have a problem if wilder got 50% if it helped get the fight done, but at this point he just doesnít deserve it.
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Old 05-28-2019, 04:22 AM #232
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Millenials are already conditioned to believe that fighters with zero lost record are the best. This why the best is not fighting the best at their best except for biggest payday for retirement!?
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Old 05-28-2019, 04:27 AM #233
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Too many of you people arguing for the sake of arguing it's DAZN contract just like AJ said , Skipper can't offer a long term network contract with promise of a fight (that's not legal in USA) it was a minmum of 4 fight deal and DAZN probably would've had options just like they do right now with AJ

What would've happened had AJ lost or something else happened you think Wilder would be off the hook from that 4 fights deal?

Now I will agree if both AJ and Wilder had been under DAZN the fight would be much easier to make but it was not contractually guaranteed
Wow. Are you honestly telling me you canít see the irony here? Youíre telling people theyíre arguing for the sake of it yet aj confirmed there was a contract to fight him yet youíre arguing otherwise? So you do know more about his business than he does. Nice to know.

If aj was to lose and the contract was to fight breazle and then Joshua then yes I imagine the deal wouldíve been void if not thatís something they should have negotiated. Iím sure you know for sure since you know everything.
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Old 05-28-2019, 04:56 AM #234
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I have no issues with this

But I do have issues with wilder fans inventing stories as to why itís not happening. Despite hearing it from wilder he isnít interested

Iíve heard long term contracts despite it being 2 fights only


The dazn contract for 80m being secretly against someone else
You should have issues with it. There is no need for this fight not to happen now, this year. Other than Wilder ducking.
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Old 05-28-2019, 05:02 AM #235
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Because networks can't guarantee the fight like how GGG is not guaranteed Canelo fight?

Maybe he doesn't want to be tied up with a long-term contact with ESPN or DAZN
Or maybe he doesn't want to fight the best around, maybe he really doesn't want to fight Anthony Joshua?
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:19 AM #236
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Shouldn't be baffling when a flat fee deal is rejected. Was it baffling to AJ when he rejected a flat fee offer of $50M for the fight? Why have Fury and Wilder fought each other, but AJ is on the outside looking in? If Hearn offers a split revenue deal, this fight gets done.
Wilder recently said he wouldnt accept a 50/50 split, thats not a flat fee...

Regardless the flat fee Joshua offered Wilder (100m) is how many times more than Wilder has ever earned exactly?
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Old 05-28-2019, 09:47 AM #237
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Who they kidding? D.Wilder would of signed with dazn & Joshua would STILL duck D.Wilder.
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Old 05-28-2019, 10:47 AM #238
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wilder gonna end up making $100m on this fight
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Old 05-28-2019, 11:19 AM #239
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It doesnít work that way tho...itís about who generates the most revenue, and their track records speak for themselves. Itís why Floyd always took the lions share or why ggg took a smaller piece of the pie vs canelo, even tho everyone knew ggg was the guy at mw and had the belts. I wouldnít have a problem if wilder got 50% if it helped get the fight done, but at this point he just doesnít deserve it.
Joshua will make the most revenue when he fights Wilder for undisputed. But it's not just about the revenue is it? It's legacy. Wilder and Fury have already enhanced their legacies fighting each other and both have stated that they will not fight Joshua for anything less than 50%. The ball's in Joshua's court. Nobody's hurting for money so this may take a while...
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Old 05-28-2019, 02:17 PM #240
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Joshua will make the most revenue when he fights Wilder for undisputed. But it's not just about the revenue is it? It's legacy. Wilder and Fury have already enhanced their legacies fighting each other and both have stated that they will not fight Joshua for anything less than 50%. The ball's in Joshua's court. Nobody's hurting for money so this may take a while...
it's sad these guys seem content with not becoming undisputed champion, and their promoters/networks are more interested in building their guy to milk the most out of fans before giving us the fights that matter. that being said, historically the B side bends to make the fight...they are willing to concede things just for the opportunity at money/titles.
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