Espinoza talks about the rumor of Showtime boxing going out of business

[rickJen]

Promoters usually pay for their own PPV's. Networks are picking up the tab for PBC. That's why Arum is whining about losing money for Crawford-Khan while PBC has no problem putting on Wilder-Ortiz because they aren't paying for it.

First off, there was no bidding that took place. Quit lying.
Espinoza simply couldn't afford the huge guarantee Wilder and his people were demanding.
"F off," said Stephen, "Do it somewhere else."
So where would Deontay go? ESPN? DAZN?
Wilder/Shirley/Haymon would have to accept what Fox could offer and afford.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Or you can believe guys who have no idea how Showtime boxing works. Guys who claimed Showtime boxing is going out of business since 2018. So far they've been wrong.

Espinoza to Show Exec: “So now that we’re in the green for more boxing on Show., did you make up your mind for new purses to TMT for Davis?”

Show Exec.: “Well since Show is alive with boxing we’re thinking about $75K as the highest premium for our stars. How does that sound Steve? As you know, that’s what our new boxing budget is limited to. We’re not DAZN!”

[2ndroundko]

Any explanation why the Wilder/Ortiz 2 fight,
"Didn't make sense for us," according to Espinoza?
Showtime covered Deontay's title fights since day 1,
yet suddenly give them away to Fox.

Yet deontay fought on fox in 2017. nothing new

[bballchump11]

So we're suppose to believe a guy who has continuously made bad decisions for his network with a garbage schedule for the past two years?

Lmao I'd like to thank haymon for killing hbo and showtime for bringing free boxing on fox ppv

Espinoza made the best deal in showtime's history by signing Mayweather. He's going nowhere

[Vodkaholic]

Or you can believe guys who have no idea how Showtime boxing works. Guys who claimed Showtime boxing is going out of business since 2018. So far they've been wrong.

Or i can believe the garbage match ups, low ratings and lack of ppvs and lackluster schedule. Lmao

[elfag]

People who have no idea of the inner workings of Showtime boxing have said Showtime boxing is going out of business since 2018. Showtime is working on their 2020 schedule

Its undeniable that showtime went down the chitter compared to 5-10 years ago. They have had half a foot out the door since Floyd retired in 2015.

[Monzon99]

Showtime is minor league boxing with a bunch of lousy Al Haymon choreographed fake fights, so lousy Haymon never bothers to show up and watch because he knows the outcomes.

[Bob Haymon]

showtime has become irrelevant. Wilder is the only guy capable of getting over 500k viewers and we won't be seeing him on regular Showtime any time soon. Charlo and Davis mismatches aren't going to bring in any subscribers.

[A.K]

Sounds like you want it to fail.

Nope sounds like the OP wants showtime to fail and the reality is it’s dazn.

[MastaBlasta]

It's a scramble, garnering talented boxers to make entertaining fights, that people will care about. I hope all these promoters and networks scramble and find ways to survive, because this keeps Boxing in the public media.

The problem today is greed (ok, high aspirations). The Ali's, Mayweathers, Lewises, Durans, Leonards, Foremans, Pacquioas, etc (that broke financial records and made boxing mainstream) were special individuals. Compelling storys and careers coupled with success and excitement, and able to generate record interest, and monies.

There are only so many of "those individuals" that are gonna happen in a generation.

Promoters/networks now are trying to create and control fighters, and nurture careers to cash in on a "generational" fighter (like the legends). It's hard to create and predict, but the more of the sport you control the better your chances of being "Don King" when the next "Ali" happens.

So, many take aim at DOMINATING the sport. They just want the money.

Hopefully no one actually gets there. Corruption, favoritism, and a decline in the sports integrity will occur if any single entity dominates the sport. Multiple players helps keep the sport honest (as much as it is - many already don't think it's honest enough).

Hating on DAZN/PBC/TopRank/Showtime/Fox or becoming their cheerleaders should only be for people being paid to do it. If anyone is being paid, carry on. For everyone else, the topic and discussions should be about the fights and the fighters abilities.

I remember boxing was commonplace on tv, and I remember when it disappeared for years. It's nice to have it around again. I hope they all survive, keep the integrity high and corruption low, and everyone makes a decent dollar along the way (enough that people continue to stage and support the sport). Everything more is gravy, nice if it happens but not the end-all-be-all.