Comments Thread For: Canelo Tests Positive For Clenbuterol Ahead of Golovkin Fight

[aboutfkntime]

why can't you guys keep it real ?

THAT..... is why everyone hates you lol

the Pac fanbase has NEVER kept it real

either..... 1) keep it real..... 2) STFU about steroids

[Bjl12]

Max Kellerman didn’t truly assess Juan Manuel Marquez’s hard-fought victory over Mike Alvarado until the HBO cameras were turned off. “I’m always highly cynical when I see a guy who gets faster when he gets older,” he said.

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Photo: Chris Farina/Top Rank

“There’s always that cloud of suspicion with a modern athlete who performs well and maybe differently as he gets to an advanced athletic age. That has certainly followed Marquez in recent years, particularly after the (fourth Manny) Pacquiao fight,” a contest Marquez won with a paralyzing knockout shot in the sixth round.

Kellerman made his remarks when he was interviewed on camera by Radio Raheem Saturday while fans cleared out after the fight at the Forum in Inglewood, California. Marquez, 40, is bigger and stronger, and his punches are at least as precise as they were when I used to watch him perform in his early twenties at the same venue.

If you looked closely at his muscular torso Saturday, you could see it was spotted with acne that struck him in middle age. Acne, which could occur naturally, can be a sign of steroid abuse.

We can’t know for sure why Kellerman waited until the HBO cameras were turned off before he made these remarks. He night not know himself. But the object of his suspicions was lining himself up for the possibility of another big HBO pay-per-view outing against Pacquiao.

Max spoke at the end of a hard night, when many of us are prone to let our hair down, when hard truths and nagging questions spill forth as though they have a will of their own. The interview was on youtube.com.

The pre-fight reality programming on HBO for Pacquiao-Marquez 4 in December 2012 showed Marquez doing squats with weights that looked the size of Volkswagens. Lots of men in their late thirties can lift such weights, but they don’t all report the next day for roadwork and a full sequence of intensive training worthy of a world-class prizefighter.

Marquez’s record against Pacquiao is 1-2-1. Each contest was controversial in some way. The first one, fought ten years ago in the featherweight division, ended in a draw because one judge, Burt Clements, admitted later he scored the first round 10-7 because he didn’t know he could score it 10-6 . Pacquiao knocked Marquez down three times in the round. Had Clements scored it correctly the outcome would have been a split decision for Pacquiao that might not have triggered a series.

Many boxing trainers believe that under normal conditions, when a fighter pumps himself up with heavy weights, he’ll lose both conditioning and speed in exchange for strength and bulk. But on Saturday Marquez’s punches snapped with precision as he worked up and down against valiant Alvarado, 33. Marquez seemed to get stronger as the fight went on.

It was before that last Pacquiao contest that Marquez began working with strength and conditioning coach Angel “Memo” Heredia, who began using an alias after testifying in numerous PEDs cases as a prosecution witness. Prosecutors let him walk away after he ratted out former associates, including Victor Conte. Heredia repeatedly admitted under oath that he supplied PEDs to numerous athletes in track and field and other sports and that he specialized in figuring out how to beat testing for PEDs.
Conte, who served less than a year for his crimes, is, like Heredia, back in business, but they are definitely not pals. Both say they now work clean.

After Marquez weighed in for Alvarado, Conte tweeted, “Wonder if we may start 2 see betting odds suddenly change b4 future fights based upon pimples observed on a boxer at the weigh-in?”

Heredia gravitated more heavily into boxing after his PEDs reputation made him a marked man. Boxing, unlike team sports, has no league that can impose discipline against individual athletes. But Heredia’s reputation works two ways because none of the athletes he helped pump up with banned chemicals ever tested positive.

The California athletic commission, which supervised the bout on Saturday, has caught numerous athletes, mostly cage fighters, with illegal substances in their systems and handed out suspensions and fines. Still, the commission tests fall well below rigid standards imposed by VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association), the entity formed by Dr. Margaret Goodman, a former ring physician for the Nevada commission. Those tests cost thousands of dollars.

Marquez, asked why he’s looked better in recent performances than he did some 15 years ago, has indignantly denied any impropriety, pointed out that he tests clean, and threatened to sue accusers. Kellerman would no doubt agree that Marquez acted as an innocent man would.

What 5th REMATCH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LMFAO

[mathed]

[Con Man]

Canelo is a cheater.

A cheater will always be a cheater.

[Boxfan7819]

What 5th REMATCH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LMFAO

There was never one are you that dense. Marquez refused to fight for the fifth time.

[nacho daddy]

as usual, the morons who are crying about Marquez choose to forget the 1200+ punches that Pac threw at Clottey......

oh..... the 1200+ punches that Pac threw at Clottey, whilst looking as fresh as a daisy

come on son

he didn't almost kill clottey did he? and it is called being in shape,grandpa

[Bjl12]

There was never one are you that dense. Marquez refused to fight for the fifth time.

So that would make it a...FOURTH REMATCH LMAO
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Filipino "dense". Must be that drug killing Pac education you got that's!
War Bop Arum!!! Our gringo hero!!

[aboutfkntime]

he didn't almost kill clottey did he? and it is called being in shape,grandpa

so, when Pac was refusing blood tests..... he was in shape

and when he finally agreed to testing..... he was not in shape

gotcha

[madsweeney]

we actually covered this in an earlier post

mate, you are just making excuses

silly excuses, at that.....

that testing was the gold standard


1) the tests were completely harmless

2) no other fighter objected to those tests

3) those tests are no problem whatsoever for EVERY single Olympic Athlete

4) Pac could have simply agreed

5) guess what, Pac DID eventually agree to accept "Floyd's testing"..... which completely kills your argument..... because Manny could have accepted that same testing back in 2010..... and when he finally did agree to test in 2015, there was NO mention whatsoever of the 8 ridiculous "blockers" that Pac used for excuses back in 2010..... which is absolutely ridiculous

why did Pac's 8 ridiculous " blockers " suddenly disappear?

first, they were important enough to kill a super-fight over.....
..... then, they were not even important enough to mention, wtf?

6) when refused by Manny, Freddie Roach admitted people would find it suspicious

you have not provided one single reason to prevent Pac from simply agreeing in 2010, like he agreed in 2015, and like everyone else agreed to undertake..... and when Pac finally agreed to the gold standard, he did not die, or grow horns, or w/e

FACT: Pac could have simply agreed to harmless testing, but he refused

#excuses

It was advertised as gold standard, but it wasn't. OST is year round, randomized testing. What was presented was randomized testing during 8 weeks of camp. There has been numerous articles of professionals that have repeatedly said that without 365 testing, it was pointless unless they were blatantly using. And stuff like retroactive TUE's are not allowed by WADA, Floyd got away with it because NSAC/USADA's contract with Floyd allowed it. Its not gold standard/OST if concessions like this are made.

[madsweeney]

It was literally Olympic STYLE drug testing.

Let me help you

KTFO6
UD12
UD12

Bye

Pretty obvious you don't know what Olympic style testing standards are, nor do you understand the meaning of literally.