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Old 10-17-2018, 10:02 AM #11
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I disagree, first of all Matchroom never delivered GayJ, you would think doing buisness with them Ortiz should not have to depend on a mandatory, the red-flag was when Eddie was threatening to drop not only the IBF, but also the title that Ortiz was lined for ( WBA ).

Obviously team Ortiz, made the right choice because Al Haymon delivered a shot at the WBC, despite failing a PED test the first time. Eddie Hearn has proven not to be trusted ; even 'Fat-Baby' Miller talks shyte about him to his face on video, Hearns is a snake.
You do know that Ortiz left Hearn before aj was even wba champ right?
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:05 AM #12
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Wasn't he stripped of his mandatory status due to the positive VADA test? He was also suspended from their rankings for a year.
Fighting Wilder auto lost him the mandatory. Win or lose he wouldn't have been mandatory anymore. He just failed the test before the fight happened so was removed quicker.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:06 AM #13
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You do know that Ortiz left Hearn before aj was even wba champ right?
A pitiful lie, Luis Ortiz fought in GayJ's undercard when Joshua defended the IBF vs. Eric Molina. Why is Molina good enough, who was Deontay's leftovers and even Eddie Hearn dismissed publicly, but 'King-Kong' was not worthy at a shot?! LAUGHABLE.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:14 AM #14
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Usyk vs. Ortiz on April 13th would be nice.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:19 AM #17
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Wasn't he stripped of his mandatory status due to the positive VADA test? He was also suspended from their rankings for a year.
Yep, these kids talk out of their ass.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:27 AM #18
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A pitiful lie, Luis Ortiz fought in GayJ's undercard when Joshua defended the IBF vs. Eric Molina. Why is Molina good enough, who was Deontay's leftovers and even Eddie Hearn dismissed publicly, but 'King-Kong' was not worthy at a shot?! LAUGHABLE.
Molina was forced on Joshua by Haymon along with Breazeale as he demanded two options on AJ in return for allowing the Charles Martin IBF title fight.

If Ortiz hadn't bailed in favour of going the WBC route maybe he'd have got his shot? Although he'd not impressed against Allen or Scott as posters above have observed.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:35 AM #19
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Fighting Wilder auto lost him the mandatory. Win or lose he wouldn't have been mandatory anymore. He just failed the test before the fight happened so was removed quicker.
He didn't have a mandatory position to lose when he fought Wilder in March. Also, fighting a bout not sanctioned by the WBA doesn't automatically cost you the mandatory position, you are only automatically disqualified if you are unavailable to fight the champion due to fighting the bout. Essentially, he could have lost to Wilder and still been deemed the official contender for the WBA if they deemed him still worthy.
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Old 10-17-2018, 10:38 AM #20
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He didn't have a mandatory position to lose when he fought Wilder in March. Also, fighting a bout not sanctioned by the WBA doesn't automatically cost you the mandatory position, you are only automatically disqualified if you are unavailable to fight the champion due to fighting the bout. Essentially, he could have lost to Wilder and still been deemed the official contender for the WBA if they deemed him still worthy.
He signed for the fight last year.

If he won he'd be a title holder, which loses him his mandatory spot. If he lost, he lost and loses the mandatory spot. It just so happens he failed a test before the fight happened and lost it anyway. FFS, think........
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