More than twice what it took to save the entire US auto industry
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Originally posted by Tomjas View Post28 BILLION dollars and counting
More than twice what it took to save the entire US auto industry
Your excuse for not giving Trump credit for these economic numbers was you citing a bailout for FARMERS. My source citation was in relation to NONFARM job numbers.
Can you move on now and address those NONFARM numbers, on point, or are you now dug in on this non sequitur fallacy?
I need to know, as I need to know when to end my case and give up and give you yet another 'win'.
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Originally posted by 1bad65 View PostYou're still not keeping up.
Your excuse for not giving Trump credit for these economic numbers was you citing a bailout for FARMERS. My source citation was in relation to NONFARM job numbers.
Can you move on now and address those NONFARM numbers, on point, or are you now dug in on this non sequitur fallacy?
I need to know, as I need to know when to end my case and give up and give you yet another 'win'.
It’s a 28 billion dollar Trump cost
The US economy would be MASSIVELY better off without Trump’s policies
What part of this don’t you understand?
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Originally posted by Tomjas View Post**** non farm
It’s a 28 billion dollar Trump cost
The US economy would be MASSIVELY better off without Trump’s policies
What part of this don’t you understand?
I obviously disagree with you on most economic issues, because I look at things differently as I have been taught things you have not, experienced things you have not, etc (The same goes for you, as you have a different education and experiences than me Know that I'm not insulting you by any means by that.).
Because of that, we often even interpret the same data in completely opposing ways. So when you state something in relation to Economics that doesn't really make sense to me because it doesn't really follow the laws/trends/etc of Economics as I've been taught and experienced, I sometimes need your stances and claims clarified.
That; and you're a guy who has taken the art of parsing words to Zen levels. Thus I must be absolutely sure of your position(s) when we take opposing positions. Let's be honest here.
So in relation to these November (nonfarm) jobs numbers; your stance is that Trump, and his policies, deserve no credit for those numbers because he bailed out the farmers to the tune of $28 billion?
Do I have that correct?
If so, please state 'Yes'.
If not, please change what I believed to be your position to what your actual position is.
And to clarify, I'm asking your position on giving Trump and/or his fiscal policies credit for the November jobs report.
(So that you know, once we get your position absolutely clarified, I will be done with this back and forth. I will post no more on it. I will not attempt any rebuttal/response/etc whatsoever to your position once absolutely clarified. I'm not setting you up in any way by trying to get you to be very specific on your position on this.)Last edited by 1bad65; 12-07-2019, 03:25 PM.
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No te apures.
Vete a Mira Lago y buscar un trabajo...
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Originally posted by mathed View Post3651
Those Responsible for the Coup Attempt Will be Punished
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6 Dec 2019 - 3:48:08 PM
People actually believe those responsible for the attempted coup [coup attempt] of a duly elected sitting US President will go unpunished?
End to our Constitutional Republic?
No equal justice under the law?
No accountability?
Escape unscathed?
Enjoy the show!
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Those Responsible for Stealing Billions of US Taxpayer Dollars Will Be Punished
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6 Dec 2019 - 3:52:47 PM
People actually believe those responsible for stealing billions of US taxpayer dollars will actually go unpunished?
"This is not simply another four-year election." - POTUS
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Lolol. The greatest wall ever.
Originally posted by BERNIE'S CORNER View PostNo te apures.
Vete a Mira Lago y buscar un trabajo...
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Panic in dc!!!
Trump on Giuliani Trip To Ukraine: I Hear He’s Found Plenty of Good Information, Wants to Report to Congress and Attorney General
President Trump spoke to the press Saturday at the White House as he departed for Florida for speeches before the Israeli-American Council National Summit in Hollywood and a Republican fundraising dinner in Aventura, telling reporters that his personal attorney former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani “found plenty” of “good information” during his recent trip to Ukraine and Europe. Trump said he believes Giuliani wants to present a report to the Attorney General William Barr and to Congress. Trump added Giuliani has not told him what he found.
Giuliani reportedly traveled to Budapest and Ukraine to meet with Ukrainians about corruption.
Video:
Trump on Pensacola shooting: "I spoke with the King of Saudi Arabia. They are devastated, Saudi Arabia. We're finding out what took place, whether it's 1 person or a number of people. The King will be involved in taking care of families & loved ones ... they're going to help out" pic.twitter.com/6mAXc3HoGR
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 7, 2019
Excerpt from White House transcript:
Q: Did Rudy Giuliani tell you why he was going to Europe? And do you approve?
THE PRESIDENT: "Well, I just know he came back from someplace, and he’s going to make a report, I think to the Attorney General and to Congress. He says he has a lot of good information. I have not spoken to him about that information.
But Rudy, as you know, has been one of the great crime fighters of the last 50 years, and he did get back from Europe just recently, and I know — he has not told me what he found, but I think he wants to go before Congress and say — and also to the Attorney General and the Department of Justice. I hear he’s found plenty, yeah.
New: Ukrainian lawmaker Andriy Derkach says he's met Giuliani in Kyiv to form bilateral group to investigate misuse of US taxpayer money in Ukraine, appeals to Lindsey Graham, Devin Nunes, Mick Mulvaney for help. https://t.co/26lHRF7qxs pic.twitter.com/TYSUJvkOco
— Lucian Kim (@Lucian_Kim) December 5, 2019
Excerpt from a Reuters report on Giuliani’s trip:
An independent Ukrainian lawmaker said on Thursday he had met U.S. President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer in Kiev to discuss the alleged misuse of U.S. taxpayer money by Ukrainian state bodies.
In a statement on Facebook accompanied by photos of the meeting, Andriy Derkach said the two had discussed the creation of an interparliamentary group to fight corruption.
…As first reported by the New York Times, lawyer Rudy Giuliani has traveled to Budapest and Kiev this week to meet current and former Ukrainian officials for a documentary series amid the ongoing impeachment inquiry.
…As first reported by the New York Times, lawyer Rudy Giuliani has traveled to Budapest and Kiev this week to meet current and former Ukrainian officials for a documentary series amid the ongoing impeachment inquiry.
…Giuliani also met former Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko, according to pictures posted on Twitter and a statement on Facebook by Lutsenko’s spokeswoman. While he was prosecutor general, Lutsenko privately met Giuliani twice this year: in New York in January and later somewhere in Poland…
Giuliani has posted a few comments on his trip: “The Accounts Chamber in Ukraine found an alleged misuse of $5.3B in U.S. funds during the Obama administration while Biden was “Point Man.” Obama embassy urged Ukrainian police NOT to investigate! Stay tuned to find out why…
Shocking disclosure: Much of the $5.3B in US Aid Ukraine reported as misused was given to the embassy’s favored NGO’s. At the time Yovanovitch, witness for the Witchunt, was the Amb. That embassy directed the police not to investigate. Wonder why Obama forgot Art. 2, Sec. 3.”
“Presidential Legal Obligations 101: Art 2, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution obligates the President to investigate and ask for investigations of corruption in countries we provide funds to. Who ever heard of a president being impeached for carrying out his constitutional mandate?
"It comes as a huge shock to Democrats that realDonaldTrump will ask for investigations concerning violations of US laws & misused hard-earned tax payer dollars. It’s called his legal obligation under Article 2, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution. Ignored by Obama.”
“In reviewing my notes, it seems to me that a large scale joint investigation into Ukraine and the US would uncover and recover billions stolen by crooks, from both countries, at the highest levels. This would be the most effective way to bring our two countries together.”
The Accounts Chamber in Ukraine found an alleged misuse of $5.3B in U.S. funds during the Obama administration while Biden was “Point Man.”
— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) December 6, 2019
Obama embassy urged Ukrainian police NOT to investigate!
Stay tuned to find out why.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/trump-on-giuliani-trip-to-ukraine-i-hear-hes-found-plenty-of-good-information-wants-to-report-to-congress-and-attorney-general/
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Originally posted by 1bad65 View PostDidn't you hear?
This isn't Trump's doing, nor does he deserve credit.
See, these are nonfarm jobs, but Trump bailed out the farmers which cost money. So Trump deserves no credit for these excellent jobs numbers.
That's what Tomjas told us, and we all know that guy is never wrong.
You need to keep up better.
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It only looks like I'm behind, but in reality I've already lapped you. Sorry there lil guy, Trump has COMPLETELY ERASED Soetoro's failures, that's why people are finally working and NOT as dependent on the government. You don't really understand how communism/socialism works do you? I can't fault you for that, the educational system was designed to leave you dumb, blind and gullible.
Last edited by mathed; 12-07-2019, 10:02 PM.
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