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Old 11-10-2011, 04:51 AM #1
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Default epekto ba ng colonialismo?

bakit tayo patay na patay sa cultura ng kanluran?

tayo ay kayumaggi pero pilit nating subukang pumuti ..
bakit kristiyanismo ang ating relihion eh, mga masasamang tao ang ang nagdala ng kristianismo sa ating bansa. maraming katarantaduhan ang ating tinanggap sa mga dayuhan pero sa huli sila and ating tinitingala. bakit?

narinig nyo na ba ang bagong pagbigkas ng letrang " R" sa tagalog . mga nagpupumilit magkaroon ng western accent kahit sa pananagalog . nakakainis isipin pero eto yata ang paniniwala ng masa, na pag may accent ka na galing kanluran kahit tagalog pa ang salita, ay mas SOSYAL ang dating sa tingin ng madla.totoo ba?

mga pinoy na hindi makapagsalita ng salitang ingles, ay tinitingnan ng kapwa pinoy na isang mang mang na para bang silay puno ng galis. kanino nila nakuha ang kanilang karapatan na sila ang tamang maglagay ng basehan.

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Old 11-10-2011, 08:51 PM #2
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bakit tayo patay na patay sa cultura ng kanluran?

narinig nyo na ba ang bagong pagbigkas ng letrang " R" sa tagalog . mga nagpupumilit magkaroon ng western accent kahit sa pananagalog . nakakainis isipin pero eto yata ang paniniwala ng masa, na pag may accent ka na galing kanluran kahit tagalog pa ang salita, ay mas SOSYAL ang dating sa tingin ng madla.totoo ba?

mga pinoy na hindi makapagsalita ng salitang ingles, ay tinitingnan ng kapwa pinoy na isang mang mang na para bang silay puno ng galis. kanino nila nakuha ang kanilang karapatan na sila ang tamang maglagay ng basehan.

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Not the best example to use, lol.

How we pronounce "R"?
Filipinos haven't a linguistic dog in the fight you're decscribing,
because it's really between Anglo and Latin/Romantic "R"s. The
Filipinos of the 16th century (and earlier) didn't even have an "R"
to play around with --at least not one distinct from "D".

Scriptographic evidence supports the R/D interchangeability, as
a quick review of the baybayin syllabary shows: one character
represents both consonants. It's also still seen in present day
speech: "rumal=dumal", "runong=dunong", "rami=dami"... and
it's fair to argue that the reason we'd roll our "R"s is because
we picked it up from Castellano Spaniards.

Whether we pronounce "R" like the Castellanos do, or like the
English/Americans, we're still following colonially-introduced
norms.

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Old 11-10-2011, 09:19 PM #3
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Hindi ko pa narinig ang panibagong pagbigkas ng R, ang alam ko lang e ra re ri ro ru.

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mga pinoy na hindi makapagsalita ng salitang ingles, ay tinitingnan ng kapwa pinoy na isang mang mang na para bang silay puno ng galis
. kanino nila nakuha ang kanilang karapatan na sila ang tamang maglagay ng basehan.

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OK lang yun pre...........dito kasi sa America mababa ang tingin ko sa mga Pinoy na hindi marunong magsalita nang language natin.
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OK lang yun pre...........dito kasi sa America mababa ang tingin ko sa mga Pinoy na hindi marunong magsalita nang language natin.
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Using "OK" instead of "Katanggap-tanggap"
Using "language" instead of "wika".

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he he sino ba sa ating mga Pinoy ang nagsasalita na lang ng purong Pilipino?

sa totoo lang "global" na po mga tol ngayon, kung matuto pa tayo ng ibang **** bukod sa Ingles mas maganda...
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he he sino ba sa ating mga Pinoy ang nagsasalita na lang ng purong Pilipino?
Ang "purong Pilipino" ay kathang-isip lamang. Malamang
walo sa bawat sampung salitang "Pilipino" ay maisusuring
Intsik, Bumbay, Arabo, Kastila o galing sa iba pang wika.

Sa 'ngalan pa lang: "purong pilpino".
E, kalahating Kastila 'yan, hindi ba? (kung ituturing nating
pangalan ni Haring Felipe II ang pangalawang bahagi, e 'di
buong-buo pa nga ang pagka-kastila, ngek).

Ang habol ko lang naman ay ipakita na habang lalo natin
sinusubukan na maihango ang 'tunay na Pilipino' sa ating
wika, lalo tayong mabibigo. Lahat ng wika ng sangkatauhan
ay humiram at nagnakaw sa isa't-isa.

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sa totoo lang "global" na po mga tol ngayon, kung matuto pa tayo ng ibang **** bukod sa Ingles mas maganda...
Iyan ang tunay na makatuwirang pananaw, Ka JOM's.
Hindi wasto na ang pinanggalingan ng salita at wika (o di
kaya'y ang pagka 'tunay na Pilipino') ay bigyan ng halaga
higit pa sa kakayahan ng mga Pinoy na maibigkas ang nais
nilang ipahiwatig, malinaw at sa kanino man ---kahit ano
pa ang mga wika at salita na kanilang gagamitin.

Mabuhay ka, JOM's, Bilang tanda ng pagsang-ayon ko sa
iyong pananaw, ay tanggapin mo sana ang munting alay ko
sa iyo, na napakapula na karma.

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