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  • #41
    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    Haymon was cool with 60/40. Arum was not. Tyson Fury draws money and IS lineal champion NOW, so he deserves 50/50. Crawford hasn't done anything to earn that yet because he ducked Porter AND Danny.

    So the fight doesn't get made. Because 60/40 is more than fair. Too much if you ask me - but I think Spence was trying to help a brotha out like Floyd helped Berto. That's the level equivalency I see here.
    Crawford-Horn did similar gate and attendance as Fury's fights in Vegas. The difference in drawing power is much bigger for Wilder-Fury than it is for Spence-Crawford.

    You can't duck guys who aren't willing to fight you. Danny was made an offer and Porter made excuses.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
      Crawford-Horn did similar gate and attendance as Fury's fights in Vegas.
      Yeah - because Jeff Horn beat Manny. Which raised his profile. But that fight drew less in the states than it would have if Crawford hadn't refused to fight in Australia like Manny did.

      Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
      The difference in drawing power is much bigger for Wilder-Fury than it is for Spence-Crawford.
      No it's not. Wilder is just barely become a self-made draw. He certainly wasn't when he was fighting Stiverne - Don King was behind that crowd. And both Joshua and Ruiz outdrew him - moreso Joshua, less Ruiz, now.

      Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
      You can't duck guys who aren't willing to fight you. Danny was made an offer and Porter made excuses.
      Danny was made a JOKE offer and Kenny Porter was ignored.

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      • #43
        Brook the same guy who refused to fight Horn. A guy Crawford won every round against and stopped.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by revelated View Post
          Yeah - because Jeff Horn beat Manny. Which raised his profile. But that fight drew less in the states than it would have if Crawford hadn't refused to fight in Australia like Manny did.
          There was hardly any Australians in the audience, so no, Horn wasn't the draw in that fight.

          Originally posted by revelated View Post
          Danny was made a JOKE offer and Kenny Porter was ignored.
          $3 million guaranteed + PPV upside isn't a joke. It's a good starting offer for a guy who's sold zero PPVs in his career. Danny isn't getting those kinds of guarantees from PBC. He gets $1-2 million + incentives. Kenny is ignored by his own son who makes excuses after daddy said he was permitted to cross the street by his master Haymon.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
            There was hardly any Australians in the audience, so no, Horn wasn't the draw in that fight.
            Australians don't travel like Brits. Faulty logic.

            And you don't understand how draws work. If Horn wasn't a draw, why would he be offered more money than Jose Benavidez, a guy who was once compared to Manny Pacquiao and had more local support (US) than Horn?





            Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
            $3 million guaranteed + PPV upside isn't a joke. It's a good starting offer for a guy who's sold zero PPVs in his career. Danny isn't getting those kinds of guarantees from PBC. He gets $1-2 million + incentives.
            The flaw in your logic is you keep looking at the other side. You're not looking at the right side - Crawford.

            Crawford DOES NOT DRAW outside of Omaha. This is confirmed.

            Crawford HAS NOT FOUGHT ANY TOP OPPOSITION. This is confirmed.

            Crawford NEEDS A BIG NAME. This is confirmed.

            What you don't agree with is that Danny Garcia is a big name. But he is IN THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE. Danny's last 5 years of opposition would beat Crawford's entire resume, with the exception of Khan, and once again, Danny beat a FRESH Khan while Crawford had to low blow a damaged one.

            IN terms of prestige between the two Danny Garcia is the draw. Beating Danny would automatically put Crawford on the map. Beating Porter would put Crawford on the map. His refusal to fight either smells of fear. His job is to diffuse that fear, just like you guys kept screaming for Floyd to fight Mosley and Cotto and Hatton and Carnelo. It's Crawford's time to step up and fight the current gatekeepers. Danny, Porter. Pick one, I don't even care.

            Originally posted by Bob Haymon View Post
            Kenny is ignored by his own son who makes excuses after daddy said he was permitted to cross the street by his master Haymon.

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            • #46
              Kell Brook is hell bent on dying in the ring, isn't he? Gotta admire the man's heart, and lack of intelligence. 👍

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Mister Wolf View Post
                  My takeaway from that is, why wouldn't Crawford use that as a PERFECT opportunity to make a statement at 154, which is now Brook's comfortable weight? And do the fight in Sheffield so he can be exposed to the international community, take Brook out better and faster than Spence did and get instant credibility.

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                  • #49


                    Brook need to make 147.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by revelated View Post
                      Australians don't travel like Brits. Faulty logic.

                      And you don't understand how draws work. If Horn wasn't a draw, why would he be offered more money than Jose Benavidez, a guy who was once compared to Manny Pacquiao and had more local support (US) than Horn?
                      Everyone knew Horn's win over Pacquiao was a fluke and was gonna get destroyed by Crawford. He was never going to be any kind of draw against a top p4p fighter. He was offered more money than Benavidez because he was the defending champion. He still had to come to Crawford's home country. Main draw doe.

                      Originally posted by revelated View Post
                      The flaw in your logic is you keep looking at the other side. You're not looking at the right side - Crawford.

                      Crawford DOES NOT DRAW outside of Omaha. This is confirmed.

                      Crawford HAS NOT FOUGHT ANY TOP OPPOSITION. This is confirmed.

                      Crawford NEEDS A BIG NAME. This is confirmed.

                      What you don't agree with is that Danny Garcia is a big name. But he is IN THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE. Danny's last 5 years of opposition would beat Crawford's entire resume, with the exception of Khan, and once again, Danny beat a FRESH Khan while Crawford had to low blow a damaged one.

                      IN terms of prestige between the two Danny Garcia is the draw. Beating Danny would automatically put Crawford on the map. Beating Porter would put Crawford on the map. His refusal to fight either smells of fear. His job is to diffuse that fear, just like you guys kept screaming for Floyd to fight Mosley and Cotto and Hatton and Carnelo. It's Crawford's time to step up and fight the current gatekeepers. Danny, Porter. Pick one, I don't even care.



                      Garcia is even less of a draw than Crawford. His last fight had lower attendance than Crawford's last fight. When he fought in Vegas against big names like Khan and Rios he only sold 3-4k tickets. Fighting on free tv he did under a million viewers, less than any Crawford fight on ESPN. Crawford hasn't even been in a position to refuse a Garcia fight since Garcia straight up ducked him when he was made an offer. Any prestige Danny has has evaporated with mediocre performances against Redkach, Herrera, washed up Judah and his cherrypicking hillbilly midgets like Salka.

                      Porter saying Crawford needs to cross the street is a duck. A bigger draw who is ranked 20-30 places higher on the p4p list doesn't need to cross the street for Porter or Garcia. It's like Caleb Plant making offers to Saunders and Smith to save face. Those guys aren't going over to PBC for some country bumpkin who isn't even remotely on their level.
                      Last edited by Bob Haymon; 02-22-2020, 04:23 PM.

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