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If Ariza is dirty, then Floyd is on PEDs now too right?

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  • #11
    Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
    So following your logic Manny's best years (with Ariza) can be credited to his steroid use and Floyd and other prominent people in the sport were correct in having their suspicions? And if Floyd is juicing now ... What's that say about all the years prior that he was so dominant? It's not like he was getting knocked out by bantamweight and now he's looking like a beast with Ariza at WW ... That only happened with one fighter in particular.
    Who was Floyd strength and conditioning coach before Ariza?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Rath View Post
      Who was Floyd strength and conditioning coach before Ariza?
      Didn't have one to my knowledge ..

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Pu·gi·list View Post
        Manny took him to court and asked Floyd to reveal his testing records from USADA. Floyd quickly settled that case by paying Manny and his lawyers instead, and even issued a public apology. It's obvious why.
        Why lie man? They requested his full medical history. What would you want your lawyers to do if someone requested your full medical history? What if you have been prescribed herpes medication? What if you'd been treated for chlamydia?

        There are hundreds of pages doctors have to read regarding client confidentiality. I love that the smoking gun to some isn't the guy suing over drug testing

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        • #14
          Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
          Didn't have one to my knowledge ..
          I know that he does not have one, or we are lead to believe that he does not have one. But do you think it is possible he has a strength and conditioning coach that we don't know of?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
            Why lie man? They requested his full medical history. What would you want your lawyers to do if someone requested your full medical history? What if you have been prescribed herpes medication? What if you'd been treated for chlamydia?

            There are hundreds of pages doctors have to read regarding client confidentiality. I love that the smoking gun to some isn't the guy suing over drug testing
            Under standard sports drug-testing protocols, when blood or urine is taken from an athlete, it's divided into an A and B sample. The A sample is tested first. If it tests negative, end of story. If the Asample tests positive, the athlete then has the right to demand that the B sample be tested. If the B sample tests negative, the athlete is presumed to be clean. But if the B sample also tests positive, the first positive finding is confirmed and the athlete has a problem.

            On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

            More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather'sA sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd's B sample. And because the B sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA's contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive A sample results being reported to Mayweather's opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

            In late-May, Pacquiao's attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

            The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.

            On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather's initial monetary settlement offer was substantially more than Pacquiao's attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.
            Last edited by bartolomewj; 01-05-2015, 01:36 AM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
              Why lie man? They requested his full medical history. What would you want your lawyers to do if someone requested your full medical history? What if you have been prescribed herpes medication? What if you'd been treated for chlamydia?

              There are hundreds of pages doctors have to read regarding client confidentiality. I love that the smoking gun to some isn't the guy suing over drug testing
              what took you so long to come up with this herpes/chlamydia excuse?

              would you pay that much amount of money just because of that where it is easier to justify herpes/chlamydia since he always frequented those places and be around those women?

              Ha Ha Ha, you can really be very funny without even trying.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Rath View Post
                what took you so long to come up with this herpes/chlamydia excuse?

                would you pay that much amount of money just because of that where it is easier to justify herpes/chlamydia since he always frequented those places and be around those women?

                Ha Ha Ha, you can really be very funny without even trying.
                They only called for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Rath View Post
                  what took you so long to come up with this herpes/chlamydia excuse?

                  would you pay that much amount of money just because of that where it is easier to justify herpes/chlamydia since he always frequented those places and be around those women?

                  Ha Ha Ha, you can really be very funny without even trying.
                  If someone sued your mom over defamation of character you'd want her lawyers to just give their lawyers whatever the hell they wanted (including her family's medical records) upon request? You do know when someone has agency to represent you, it means they are supposed to represent your best interests right? I don't think anyone on the face of the Earth would want Pacstans to represent them in any type of negotiation after reading NSB for a few days .

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Rath View Post
                    I know that he does not have one, or we are lead to believe that he does not have one. But do you think it is possible he has a strength and conditioning coach that we don't know of?
                    Yes. I also think it's possible that Sasquatch exists and there can be a case made for the Chupacabra too but I'd argue that the evidence (or lack thereof) suggests that they don't. Same as Mayweathers top secret S&C coach that he's been hiding for 20 some odd years.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
                      Yes. I also think it's possible that Sasquatch exists and there can be a case made for the Chupacabra too but I'd argue that the evidence (or lack thereof) suggests that they don't. Same as Mayweathers top secret S&C coach that he's been hiding for 20 some odd years.
                      Would that chupacakbra and that sasquatch case be the same with PED ( the evidence (or lack thereof ) accusation the mayweathers spread about Pac? Same top secret Pac and his team been hiding for odd 10 yrs?

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