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Old 12-09-2019, 01:20 PM #31
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True. But that's life in boxing, you can't put up all these ifs and buts. the only thing we have is fact.

Stiverne also wasn't in the top 10, but then beats a fat and over the hill Arreola which just happened to be for the WBC title, all of a sudden he was top 5.

Boxing works that way and a belt means something.

The fact is Martin beat nobody, he didn't beat Glazkov his knee literally gave out. This was a cherry pick so people can say "oh look at this top 10 fighter on AJs resume"

Arreola had 2 losses to champions, Vitali & Adamek, & he barely lost that Adamek bout despite having an injured hand. He was not shot & he was in better shape for Stiverne than the Vitali & Adamek bouts when he was heavier
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Old 12-09-2019, 01:23 PM #32
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Yeah he was ranked #8 with the ring and #9 TBRB. Joshua was ranked #8.

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Old 12-09-2019, 07:24 PM #33
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The fact is Martin beat nobody, he didn't beat Glazkov his knee literally gave out. This was a cherry pick so people can say "oh look at this top 10 fighter on AJs resume"

Arreola had 2 losses to champions, Vitali & Adamek, & he barely lost that Adamek bout despite having an injured hand. He was not shot & he was in better shape for Stiverne than the Vitali & Adamek bouts when he was heavier
You can't argue with facts.

I said Martin was #8 and proved it. You don't think he deserved to be there, that's your OPINION.

He was there regardless of your personal opinion.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:25 PM #34
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:35 PM #35
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facts are facts.
I was laughing at myself for not realizing you meant tbrb.
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I was laughing at myself for not realizing you meant tbrb.
tbrb is widely considered the best rankings site in the world, so I usually go by that.

Ring had him #8 at the time of the fight.
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:20 PM #37
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Wilder fans go mad when you show them facts.
A guy with half your fights and twice the number of top 10 on his resume with 4X the number of bets.
As a wilder fan, its a hard kill to swallow.
The best thing is to twist the narrative and add confusion in the discussion.
Thats what they do best.
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Old 12-10-2019, 03:11 PM #38
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You can't argue with facts.

I said Martin was #8 and proved it. You don't think he deserved to be there, that's your OPINION.

He was there regardless of your personal opinion.
Facts mean nothing without context.

AJ cherrypicked & his fans are forced to now defend that cherrypick lol. It would've been ruled a NC if it the injury occurred just 1 round later.
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tbrb is widely considered the best rankings site in the world, so I usually go by that.

Ring had him #8 at the time of the fight.
Wilder having 3 is highly suspect ,I don't see Breazeale being ranked in top 10 there. I don't see Fury either. I only see Ortiz his last fight and Stiverne in 2015,that 2 guys.


Whatever the case its clear AJ is the number one HW at least back in that position if we went on quality of opponents. AJ should actually have 7 because they did not have Klitschko ranked due to a formality of inactivity but he was at least a top 3 HW at that time in 2017 and had cancelled bouts with fury that were postponed.
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