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  • #21
    Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
    Bundu said Thurman hit harder than Spence. Spence hit Garcia with everything and couldn't shift him. Spences size and workrate is a threat. I dont think hes power is a particular worry for Pac.

    No he didnt. Garcia 'fought' to last 12, not to win that fight. Garcia was shelled up and took no risks. Spence didnt get to land as much as he would like to.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by el*** View Post
      No he didnt. Garcia 'fought' to last 12, not to win that fight. Garcia was shelled up and took no risks. Spence didnt get to land as much as he would like to.
      Someone was hitting Mikey, who isnt even a big lightweight. Of course Garcia had some defence, but Spence didnt do a Tommy Hearns on him. Hes a good puncher, but not a level above Thurman when it comes to actual power.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
        Bundu said Thurman hit harder than Spence. Spence hit Garcia with everything and couldn't shift him. Spences size and workrate is a threat. I dont think hes power is a particular worry for Pac.
        Bundu went the full 12 rounds with Thurman but was knocked unconscious by Spence in the 6th. Bundu retired after the fight.

        Chris Algieri said Ruslan Provodnikov hit harder than Spence, even though Algieri beat Provodnikov in a 12 round split decision. Yet, Spence stopped Algieri in 5 rounds, which lead to a two and half year lay off for Algieri.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by South Champion View Post
          Bundu went the full 12 rounds with Thurman but was knocked unconscious by Spence in the 6th. Bundu retired after the fight.

          Chris Algieri said Ruslan Provodnikov hit harder than Spence, even though Algieri beat Provodnikov in a 12 round split decision. Yet, Spence stopped Algieri in 5 rounds, which lead to a two and half year lay off for Algieri.
          Power helps but doesn't really tell the whole story about finishing skills.

          Spence is an effective pressure fighter, who places his shots well and is very good at breaking down his opponents.

          Thurman has great power which is amplified by his counter punching skills, but he doesn't press the action as much and often contents with playing it safe (especially in the second half of fights).

          Provodnikov has big ass power but doesn't have the pedigree to land his shots consistently or adapt in fights. His punches are easier to read and anticipate. A big part of finishing skills is the ability to set up punches and surprise his opponents.

          I don't have a source on hand but K think m. Garcia also said that lipinets punches harder than Spence.

          But that doesn't mean that Spence has a weak punch though.

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          • #25
            There was a round manny had some great momentum going

            Keith landed a hard thudding bodyshot u could hear through the television

            manny took the rest of the round off to recover

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            • #26
              Originally posted by South Champion View Post
              Bundu went the full 12 rounds with Thurman but was knocked unconscious by Spence in the 6th. Bundu retired after the fight.

              Chris Algieri said Ruslan Provodnikov hit harder than Spence, even though Algieri beat Provodnikov in a 12 round split decision. Yet, Spence stopped Algieri in 5 rounds, which lead to a two and half year lay off for Algieri.
              So I said it wouldn't be Spences power that would be too much for Manny. And nothing you've said changes that. Accuracy, accumulation of shots factor into stoppages. Also, sometimes when a guy has been stopped previously they lose abit of resistance. But the point stands it wouldnt be Spences power that Manny would find overwhelming.

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              • #27
                People can see Pac s performance over margarita was spectacular but doesn't get the credit he deserved for that win. So that was a high risk, low reward type of fight, dangerous fight with little credit for it. The guy was a stone and half bigger than pac.
                Pac s win over thurman is the biggest achievement by any boxer this decade and should bag pac Fotd again.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 07-24-2019, 11:09 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Htown-Finest View Post
                  Post show he was talking to porter and both said Thurman hits hard. Quite a compliment

                  There was a report that when he fought Margarito. After the fight. He was folded in half in pain from a body shot that he took from Margarito that hurt him like hell for a long while
                  yea if you watch his movie from a few years ago you see a scene where pacs leaving the dressing room after the fight wearing his suit and he literally stops in his tracks,drops down to crouch and try and catch his breath

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                  • #29
                    pac has a really good chin and incredible toughness


                    that camp and fight is gonna take a lot out of him

                    I just hope he fights khan and then calls it a day

                    but he is surrounded by people who are giving him bad advice

                    roach said "we are in this sport to fight the best"

                    who is "we"?

                    pac has already proven enough


                    you are not the one taking punches, you just want the feeling of winning or losing


                    at this point it is obvious to me pac is fighting or money so khan in Saudi has to be the best risk-reward fight

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