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The Problem AJ/Wilder and all other HW’s face against Usyk

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Clegg View Post
    AJ maybe, Wilder seems to have a pretty relaxed mindset and stayed calm when losing rounds vs Ortiz and Washington. He threw wild shots like always, but he didn't blow his load trying to turn things around early.
    He did noticeably gas during that fight though but I’ll admit his stamina is considerably better than AJ’s.

    Wilder-Usyk, is the most interesting matchup IMO

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    • #12
      He has a better ring generalship than anyone at HW (Except for Fury). He seems to have a good 12 round pace, and his footwork is amazing.

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      • #13
        Not sure about AJ, Fury and Wilder because they are huge but can see him out boxing Whyte, Parker and Povetkin

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        • #14
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
          Usyk boxes at an extremely high pace...
          ...and he can do it for 12 rounds!

          He also has fantastic ring IQ and constantly puts pressure both physically and mentally on his opponents. On top of this he is far, far more skilled than these HW’s.

          I use AJ and Wilder as examples because I believe both would be blowing out their asses after 5 or 6 rounds with Usyk.
          They will have to be aggressive early and hope to KO, hurt or cause sustained damage to Usyk early on, or they will find themselves in deep trouble come the second half of the fight. However, Usyk’s skill level and ring IQ makes that a lot easier said than done.

          Usyk is gonna be a nightmare for these HW’s...
          Wilder and Big Baby Miller can fight at that pace very comfortably. When have you ever seen Wilder tired? His stamina is one of his most underrated and grossly ignored advantage over the rest of the heavies. AJ is a different case but I still expect him to wreck Usyk too.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
            He did noticeably gas during that fight though but I’ll admit his stamina is considerably better than AJ’s.

            Wilder-Usyk, is the most interesting matchup IMO
            Why is it interesting? It will go the same way all Wilder fights go. Usyk looks good for 2 - 3 rounds while Wilder finds his range. Wilder hits him and the match is over. Boxingscene becomes chaotic with a lot of complaint that Wilder was lucky instead of giving him his props that he was calibrating/setting the other guy up. Lol...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
              Size is a huge element obviously but Usyk coped with it fine as an amateur. I remember watching him live against Joe Joyce and he completely stood him on his head over 5 rounds. I’m supremely confident Usyk is good enough to deal with the size disadvantage.
              Joe Joyce is a lot slower than Joshua, Wilder and Fury. A win against him 5 years ago doesn't really say much about how Usyk would cope with the top guys at heavyweight.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by asotgod123 View Post
                Wilder and Big Baby Miller can fight at that pace very comfortably. When have you ever seen Wilder tired? His stamina is one of his most underrated and grossly ignored advantage over the rest of the heavies. AJ is a different case but I still expect him to wreck Usyk too.
                He clearly gassed against Ortiz in the middle rounds...
                But I agree that his stamina is better than a lot of the current HW’s however, I seriously doubt it allows him to cope with the pace Usyk fights at. The Ortiz fight was fought at a pretty slow pace early on and Wilder was noticeably tired after 6.

                Big baby Miller😂😂 the guy has never faced anyone who’s forced him to fight at any sort of intensity.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by lolasif View Post
                  Joe Joyce is a lot slower than Joshua, Wilder and Fury. A win against him 5 years ago doesn't really say much about how Usyk would cope with the top guys at heavyweight.
                  But it proves that he can deal with a considerable size disadvantage...

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                    Usyk boxes at an extremely high pace...
                    ...and he can do it for 12 rounds!

                    He also has fantastic ring IQ and constantly puts pressure both physically and mentally on his opponents. On top of this he is far, far more skilled than these HW’s.

                    I use AJ and Wilder as examples because I believe both would be blowing out their asses after 5 or 6 rounds with Usyk.
                    They will have to be aggressive early and hope to KO, hurt or cause sustained damage to Usyk early on, or they will find themselves in deep trouble come the second half of the fight. However, Usyk’s skill level and ring IQ makes that a lot easier said than done.

                    Usyk is gonna be a nightmare for these HW’s...
                    I agree. Wilder and AJ average throwing about 35 punches a round while Usyk averages throwing 70 punches a round.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by asotgod123 View Post
                      Why is it interesting? It will go the same way all Wilder fights go. Usyk looks good for 2 - 3 rounds while Wilder finds his range. Wilder hits him and the match is over. Boxingscene becomes chaotic with a lot of complaint that Wilder was lucky instead of giving him his props that he was calibrating/setting the other guy up. Lol...
                      Wilder needed 9 rounds to KO Molina and Molina sucks. Usyk is vastly superior to Molina on offense and defense.

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