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  • Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
    So just because she's Jamaican you'd vote for her? Identity politics!
    I can't vote. She is over on Dems side so I know some of her views.
    You seem to not like her. What specifically did she say to make you feel that way?

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    • Originally posted by John Barron View Post
      trump grew up in Jamaica, Queens. i have a MAGA hat with your name on it.
      Let me wear it. Trump hasn't been as horrible as we thought because he hasn't achieved many of what he promised.

      What I really want an American president to do is crackdown on the lax gun laws.

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      • Originally posted by Hype Job View Post
        Which democratic socialist countries have encountered this scenario?
        I said "socialist", not democratic socialist.

        Read slower and try to keep up.
        Last edited by 1bad65; 11-08-2017, 08:25 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Bobby Deez View Post
          He wasn't seen as weak? Ha ha you letting your blackness blind you my dude. That's why Putin walked all over him. That bowing to another man's shoes and don't cross these redlines hurt this country try to deny it all you want but you've never seen An American President treated like Obama was in China. Why because they knew they could. Talk all the **** you want about Trump but no ones making him use emergency exits. Hate to bring you that truth
          Putin walked all over him? Man, where do you get this stuff. I asked about bowing, and then you bring up crossing the line. How exactly was the country hurt?

          You gave an opinion, not truth. If that is your opinion, fine. Under President Obama the US never lost its footing as the world leader. Is that the same now?

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          • Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
            Bull****, we didn't start the identity politics game your side did. I cast my support for Obama back in 2008, that turned out to be a huge disaster especially with Obamacare, and the country becoming the most divisive it has ever been.

            I wish your nominee is a Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker or Keith Ellison.
            Jim, come on dude. Trump is using the Goldwater playbook from the 1960's.

            Obamacare has done more good than bad. Depending on what state you live in, Obamacare's failures are directly related to Republican governors and state legislatures blocking full implementation.

            The fact it has an over 50% approval rating and people flocked to prevent Republicans from repealing it proves this. Now you may have gotten a raw deal as we discussed before, but that is the same as me getting screwed with Trump new tax proposal should it pass.

            The divisiveness is directly related to Obama being black. No offense, but the lack of respect he was shown by segments of the country, watching people claim he wasn't an American and saying "you lie" is what divided the country.

            Why do you wish that? So Republicans can double down and capitalize on middle class whites being manipulated to feel like any of those people would alienate them or not look out for their best interests in office?

            Sadly, that strategy will work despite the fact all of these people truly care about the middle and working class as their history shows.

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            • Originally posted by E10Rifle View Post
              Quick question, Jim. Do you mind when a woman beats a man in an electoral race? Like Sarah Palin beating Tony Knowles or Elizabeth Warren beating Scott Brown?
              Quick question rifle, when your wife penetrates you how big do you prefer the strap on to be?

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              • Ed Gillespie tried to go to the right but it was too late to win. It's a good thing IMO that he defeated the Trump backed candidate in the primary.

                Do we really need to see quasi Trump's running around during elections?

                I just hope in next year's elections we don't see otherwise decent people feel the need to try and exploit white anger, victimhood and pain in an election. However, I'm sure they will.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-08-2017, 11:07 AM.

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                • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  Jim, come on dude. Trump is using the Goldwater playbook from the 1960's.

                  Obamacare has done more good than bad. Depending on what state you live in, Obamacare's failures are directly related to Republican governors and state legislatures blocking full implementation.

                  The fact it has an over 50% approval rating and people flocked to prevent Republicans from repealing it proves this. Now you may have gotten a raw deal as we discussed before, but that is the same as me getting screwed with Trump new tax proposal should it pass.

                  The divisiveness is directly related to Obama being black. No offense, but the lack of respect he was shown by segments of the country, watching people claim he wasn't an American and saying "you lie" is what divided the country.

                  Why do you wish that? So Republicans can double down and capitalize on middle class whites being manipulated to feel like any of those people would alienate them or not look out for their best interests in office?

                  Sadly, that strategy will work despite the fact all of these people truly care about the middle and working class as their history shows.
                  No it's not like you getting screwed with Trumps tax plan. Trumps tax plan hasn't passed and there is a good chance it won't pass in it's current form, and if it did you're looking at only a 3% bump.

                  I assume you're probably on your ladies health insurance or have health insurance from your job so healthcare costs aren't as prevalent for you as they are for me where Obamacare would cost me something like 12-15% of my net income on the open market.


                  I don't mind paying taxes on Medicare to help out older folks, they deserve it, but at this point I also don't mind single player for everyone because it most certainly would be a cheaper alternative to what I have to deal with now.


                  Obamacare certainly does help a lot of folks at the expense of many others like myself, and I don't think it's fair that those people get to enjoy health insurance at a minimal cost relative to their income while I get to enjoy it at a very expensive cost relative to my income.

                  Do me a favor and go to healthcare.gov and plug in your and your wife's info (age, income) and let me know the numbers you get if you were gonna shop the open market.
                  Last edited by JimRaynor; 11-08-2017, 10:11 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by JimRaynor View Post
                    No it's not like you getting screwed with Trumps tax plan. Trumps tax plan hasn't passed and there is a good chance it won't pass in it's current form, and if it did you're looking at only a 3% bump.

                    I assume you're probably on your ladies health insurance or have health insurance from your job so healthcare costs aren't as prevalent for you as they are for me where Obamacare would cost me something like 12-15% of my net income on the open market.


                    I don't mind paying taxes on Medicare to help out older folks, they deserve it, but at this point I also don't mind single player for everyone because it most certainly would be a cheaper alternative to what I have to deal with now.


                    Obamacare certainly does help a lot of folks at the expense of many others like myself, and I don't think it's fair that those people get to enjoy health insurance at a minimal cost relative to their income while I get to enjoy it at a very expensive cost relative to my income.

                    Do me a favor and go to healthcare.gov and plug in your and your wife's info (age, income) and let me know what the numbers you get if you were gonna shop the open market.
                    Dude 3% is more so I would get screwed.

                    What state do you live in Jim? That is the primary factor in determining whether Obamacare has been a positive or negative for you. I understand it has been bad for you and I feel for you. My point is overall its had a positive impact.

                    I agree with you on the single payer thing. I said it before, and I say it again, the brilliance of Obamacare is to make it work means Republicans have to choose between business profits and the individual. They know the fixes needed but the lobbyists are pressuring them not to implement those fixes.

                    That, sadly, is the curse. It hurts decent people who are willing to help.

                    I truly hope the fixes are made so you don't suffer anymore.
                    Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-08-2017, 11:06 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
                      Lol @ the posters triggered about the elected transgender. I barely noticed or cared about that when I read the OP the 1st time.
                      This is the right attitude. Consider the candidates' ideas, experience and merit, not their race, gender, sexual orientation or other 'identity.'

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