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Old 02-16-2020, 10:38 AM #61
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It would be an interesting matchup for Tyson and Wilder. Wilder has a long body and I could see Rooney training Tyson to get inside and work on Wilder's ribs. I don't think Wilder would have enough punch output to keep Tyson off of him. The blueprint to beat Tyson would be great movement, work off the long jab, tie him up on the inside and off the jab comes a right hand. That isn't Wilder. His footwork isn't very good. I don't know if Wilder expects to knock out Tyson with one straight right hand and if that's the case then Tyson would get him in 5 rounds or less.

**** Holyfied, Lewis and a prime Bowe would have knocked out Wilder.
That is your opinion
Holyfield had problems w tall boxers..

Lewis had a glass jaw and towered over most of his opposition..

Lewis didnt fight Bowe.. prime Tyson..Mercer..Or Wladimir and ran from Vitali rematch

Lewis got knocked out twice by 2 non HOF fighters

Now a motivated Bowe would have been interesting..50 50
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:39 AM #62
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I think Wilders height would be an issue.

The super heavyweights of today would give the greats of the past problems just due to their size and strength. Wlad for example would crush Mike to death in a clinch.
Wlad would have been rendered senseless inside of 1 round. No version of Wlad ever beats a prime Mike Tyson.
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:43 AM #63
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Where is no proof about that. beating old guys like Stiverne, Arreola and euro levels like Szpilka, doesn`t prove much.

he couldn`t even drop Duhaupas.
Iím one of the biggest Tyson fans. Watched him when he was a teen coming up. However Wilderís punching power is an indisputable fact. He is the hardest hitting single punch KO artist ever. This isnít even debatable
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:45 AM #64
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Iím one of the biggest Tyson fans. Watched him when he was a teen coming up. However Wilderís punching power is an indisputable fact. He is the hardest hitting single punch KO artist ever. This isnít even debatable
Its not debatable? He foughts like 40 over matched opponents he was set up to beat and maybe 2-3 genuinely good fighters.
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:50 AM #65
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Its not debatable? He foughts like 40 over matched opponents he was set up to beat and maybe 2-3 genuinely good fighters.
Itís called the eyeball test and comments from former and current boxers as well as present sparring partners whoíve been in with every HW out there.

Again this is not a debatable topic. He is the hardest hitting single punch KO artist to ever grace the ring.

These are facts
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:55 AM #66
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You shorten Mike's prime.
Tyson started sliding after the Michael Spinks fight in 1988, which was his peak.

In the first Frank Bruno fight (1989) - namely, after Rooney was fired and Don King entered the picture - he was already treading the path that would lead to him getting KO'd by Buster Douglas, and decline for good after the jail stint (notwithstanding the belts he regained in 1996).
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Old 02-16-2020, 10:59 AM #67
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Wlad would have been rendered senseless inside of 1 round. No version of Wlad ever beats a prime Mike Tyson.
This.

Unbelievable how many people think that a prime Tyson would be beaten by someone who was knocked out badly by Ross Puritty, Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. A young Iron Mike would have sent Klitschko back to Kiev in a black rubber bag.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:06 AM #68
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Tyson started sliding after the Michael Spinks fight in 1988, which was his peak.

In the first Frank Bruno fight (1989) - namely, after Rooney was fired and Don King entered the picture - he was already treading the path that would lead to him getting KO'd by Buster Douglas, and decline for good after the jail stint (notwithstanding the belts he regained in 1996).
When do you think Deontay will reach his prime? With recent outstanding performances and KOTY candidates over Dominic Breazeale and Luis 'King-Kong' Ortiz, the 'Bronze-Bomber' looks unstoppable. When Wilder KO's Tyson Fury this week, I think its safe to say Deontay is almost there.
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:08 AM #69
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I was never a fan of Mike Tyson, but prime Mike beats Wilder inside 4-5 rounds. Past prime Mike ( after prison) still stops Wilder, probably in 10-11th round.

Wilder is a bum and he would stand zero chance against Mike.
You sound young ..under 35

Look mook
Study Tyson before opening your hole

Mike peaked at 85 to Spinks fight

His upper body defensive skills were outstanding...thats what caught my attention in the early part of his career..

He rarely got hit...I knew has his competition level went up this would come in handy

But after he destroyed Spinks...he just started to walk straight in to his opponents..see Razor and Thomas fights

Throw a few hooks..tie his self up in a clinch

Unfortunately soon he went to jail before he could fight a peak Holyfield in in early 90s

Look at Douglas fight ..Wilder was taller and hit harder..

We will never know..Could peak Tyson beat Marciano..Frazier..
Dempsey ..Ali..Holmes..etc...
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Old 02-16-2020, 11:09 AM #70
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That is your opinion
Holyfield had problems w tall boxers..

Lewis had a glass jaw and towered over most of his opposition..

Lewis didnt fight Bowe.. prime Tyson..Mercer..Or Wladimir and ran from Vitali rematch

Lewis got knocked out twice by 2 non HOF fighters

Now a motivated Bowe would have been interesting..50 50
you must be 15. All of those in your list would have a field day with Wilder. Do you think they would just go there with their heads up in the air?

All of them would Ko Wilder within 3 rounds.
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