Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Non Boxing Talk > Boxing Scene Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-05-2017, 04:16 PM #1
Theodore Theodore is offline
26th U.S. President
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 3,124
Quoted: 1733 Post(s)
Rep Power: 25
Theodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 50,000,100,000,009,985,982,464.00
Bank: 22,456,819.48
Total Points: 50,000,100,000,010,011,148,288.00
gif thread contribution :beerchug: - -jose- Office Space Was Genius!  Great post! - anthonydavid11 No Message - -jose- One of the good guys - 1bad65 thanks for the green K - Boxing Goat 
Al Bundy is epic... - Tony Trick-Pony Gift time.. - !! AI-Holmes!! 
Default California to decriminalize giving someone a fatal disease like HIV

Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) has written a bill removing the felony designation when someone intentionally has unprotected sex with someone without their knowledge. He says he wants to destigmatize HIV. How does he plan to do that? This bill certainly won’t. In fact it will probably backfire big time. If you have HIV or AIDS, you now don’t have to worry about a long prison stretch for giving your disease to others. The bill has passed the House and now will go to the Senate where it is expected to sail through.

In a test of shifting attitudes about HIV, a group of state lawmakers has proposed that it no longer be a felony for someone to knowingly expose others to the disease by engaging in unprotected sex and not telling the partner about the infection.

The measure by state Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco) and others would make such acts a misdemeanor, a proposal that has sparked opposition from Republican lawmakers.

The same downgrade in crime level would apply to people who donate blood or semen without telling the blood or semen bank that they have acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, or AIDS, or have tested positive for human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, the precursor to AIDS.

“HIV-related stigma is one of our main obstacles to reducing and ultimately eliminating infections,” Wiener said. “When you criminalize HIV or stigmatize people who have HIV it encourages people not to get tested, to stay in the shadows, not to be open about their status, not to seek treatment.”

Currently, those convicted of felonies can be sentenced up to seven years in prison.

Between 1988 and June 2014, there were 357 convictions in California for an HIV-specific felony that would have been downgraded by SB 239, according to a study by the Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law, which conducts research on sexual orientation and gender identity law and public policy.

[Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.]
Theodore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 04:20 PM #2
1bad65 1bad65 is online now
The ugly American
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 15,714
Quoted: 7855 Post(s)
Rep Power: 58
1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,000,000,011,111,105,560,576.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 100,000,000,011,111,105,560,576.00
You been here since 2005 an OG, yet nobody has given you a gift, here you go. - hectari Once agan, dropping knowledge - hectari Cheers! - JimRaynor :beerchug: - -jose- Good ol Algore.  Haha.  Good post. - anthonydavid11 
Drink is on me, keep doing your thing - JimRaynor Keep hammering - ΣNΣMY No Message - JimRaynor Very wise and informed - GhostofDempsey Cheers - anthonydavid11 
The Amerikanskiys are on to us, comrade lol - A-Wolf Only insults. There's nothing positive about liberalism. Haha. - Tony Trick-Pony Keep up the good fight against Libtards! - Vlad_ Keep up the great posts, sir!! - Tony Trick-Pony Biggest scam ever - Tony Trick-Pony 
Bernie's garbage... - Tony Trick-Pony Free Speech Not Popular with Dems. Great post - Tony Trick-Pony Excellent posting... - Tony Trick-Pony 
Default

Feelings over reality.

Liberalism 101.
1bad65 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 04:26 PM #3
Theodore Theodore is offline
26th U.S. President
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 3,124
Quoted: 1733 Post(s)
Rep Power: 25
Theodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond reputeTheodore has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 50,000,100,000,009,985,982,464.00
Bank: 22,456,819.48
Total Points: 50,000,100,000,010,011,148,288.00
gif thread contribution :beerchug: - -jose- Office Space Was Genius!  Great post! - anthonydavid11 No Message - -jose- One of the good guys - 1bad65 thanks for the green K - Boxing Goat 
Al Bundy is epic... - Tony Trick-Pony Gift time.. - !! AI-Holmes!! 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
Feelings over reality.

Liberalism 101.
You better be careful, they're going to Texas to turn it into a paradise just like Cali.

Remember Cali was just like Texas once, solidly Republican and conservative with the exceptions of L.A. and the Bay area.
Theodore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 04:32 PM #4
-Kev- -Kev- is offline
this is boxing
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 35,766
Quoted: 6346 Post(s)
Rep Power: 150
-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 909,091,182,620,665.75
Bank: 1,655,530,221,906.88
Total Points: 910,746,712,842,572.62
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. Happy Holidays -Kev- - !! AI-Holmes!! Merry Christmas Kev. Surround yourself with your loved ones and have a cold one. - deanrw B-day - -Mustang- mighty parallelogram for your birthday - Jack Napier 
Kristen Kreuk will jump out of this cake - Jack Napier happy birthday. - Terrel Have a great one - led* Happy New Year sweetheart! - Lorily Lol @ image. - FeFist 
Long Island Iced Tea! - Dorian Parallelogram - Spray_resistant lol - -jose- <3 u bro - sugarsmosley we be cool - jazluvr 
Happy holidays -Kev- - TBear For a bright future ahead! - Mighty_Windir for destroying that butthurt UT Silvermiles - Omowale Tribe Good Luck! - JimRaynor Right back at ya! - JimRaynor 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Dorian 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Dorian AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Dorian AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -Kev- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -Kev- Myasthenia Gravis - Ovarian Cancer - Sexual Assault - Substance Abuse - Ether 
Aphasia - Asthma/Allergies - Brain Cancer - Brain Tumors - Diabetes - Mental Illness - Ether Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - Ether Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Ether Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - Dorian Childhood Cancer - Dorian 
Default

That's horrible. So now women and dudes with HIV are gonna go around intentionally giving out their HIV with no repercussions.
-Kev- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 04:36 PM #5
1bad65 1bad65 is online now
The ugly American
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 46
Posts: 15,714
Quoted: 7855 Post(s)
Rep Power: 58
1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute1bad65 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 100,000,000,011,111,105,560,576.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 100,000,000,011,111,105,560,576.00
You been here since 2005 an OG, yet nobody has given you a gift, here you go. - hectari Once agan, dropping knowledge - hectari Cheers! - JimRaynor :beerchug: - -jose- Good ol Algore.  Haha.  Good post. - anthonydavid11 
Drink is on me, keep doing your thing - JimRaynor Keep hammering - ΣNΣMY No Message - JimRaynor Very wise and informed - GhostofDempsey Cheers - anthonydavid11 
The Amerikanskiys are on to us, comrade lol - A-Wolf Only insults. There's nothing positive about liberalism. Haha. - Tony Trick-Pony Keep up the good fight against Libtards! - Vlad_ Keep up the great posts, sir!! - Tony Trick-Pony Biggest scam ever - Tony Trick-Pony 
Bernie's garbage... - Tony Trick-Pony Free Speech Not Popular with Dems. Great post - Tony Trick-Pony Excellent posting... - Tony Trick-Pony 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bygeorge View Post
You better be careful, they're going to Texas to turn it into a paradise just like Cali.

Remember Cali was just like Texas once, solidly Republican and conservative with the exceptions of L.A. and the Bay area.
It's a concern, yes. But based on recent elections, we're ok for a good while.

The Reps here (who in many cases lean Libertarian) are taking steps to guarantee rights so liberals cant easily take them.

For example, the State just legislated that the Uber/Lyft bans in liberal Texas cities are illegal.

Imo, if anyone goes after gun rights in Texas, they are toast. Gun rights is what flipped this State from a 'Southern Democrat' State to a solid Republican State.

That was Ann Richards' doing when she vetoed concealed-carry after the Luby's massacre.
[Link View Has Been Removed. Click Here To Unlock This Content.]
1bad65 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 04:57 PM #6
Eff Pandas Eff Pandas is offline
Ignore List Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Camel Toe Capital of the World, Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 33,395
Quoted: 16392 Post(s)
Rep Power: 104
Eff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond reputeEff Pandas has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 5,588,702,510,429,291,675,648.00
Bank: 117,500,153,002,579,999,064,064.00
Total Points: 123,088,855,513,009,294,934,016.00
No Message - Santa_ Burger Exchange - cheeseburger good poster - jas One of the best posters on the forum! - JK1700 You Dont Have Enough Gifts - JimRaynor 
Always keep it real - Nomadic great contest! - TBear One kf - jas One of bscenes best - jas sensible, reasonable poster. 5 star - jazluvr 
One Champion. One Face. One Name. - Deontay Wilder 
Default

Can regular people sue regular people for giving you other diseases that are life long/life altering? If that's the case, & I thought it was, then this shouldn't be happening in the off chance you can prove it.

Proving it seems like the hard part doe. How does some girl prove she didn't get buttf#cked by some random HIV dude while dating some other dude with HIV? I mean its a unlikely scenario, but unless you can somehow ID specific types of HIV this person or that person has isn't there always some level of reasonable doubt about where one could have acquired it?
Eff Pandas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 05:32 PM #7
AllBoxingAD AllBoxingAD is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 3,012
Quoted: 1715 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14
AllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond reputeAllBoxingAD has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,000,148,318.39
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,000,148,318.39
Default

Doesnt make the least bit of sense.

I would understand downgrading unknowingly doing it.

I strongly suspect that this is one of those deals where a law was bought out by a campagin donor.
AllBoxingAD is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 06:00 PM #8
Mukuro Mukuro is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 2,151
Quoted: 753 Post(s)
Rep Power: 12
Mukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond reputeMukuro has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 30,000,139,733.80
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 30,000,139,733.80
No Message - Body Movin' Cheers! - anthonydavid11 Keep up the good work. - 1bad65 
Default

Feelings are more important than lives.
Mukuro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 06:25 PM #9
BrometheusBob. BrometheusBob. is online now
Patriot
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 19,350
Quoted: 7664 Post(s)
Rep Power: 66
BrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond reputeBrometheusBob. has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 15,000,000,000,810,214.00
Bank: 1,267,941,640,534,147,152,740,352.00
Total Points: 1,267,941,655,534,147,024,715,776.00
HBD - siablo14 brogrammers code! - BoxingFan85 No Message - Snoop Frog For implementing and managing the pick 'em game - siablo14 good job on nsb pick em - jas 
Outta that green paint. Have a beer on me ! - BERNIE'S CORNER Thanks man. Had to put an = sign in with the poster's number but it worked.  Ha. - anthonydavid11 Here. It's a cookie. Looks like chocolate chip. - Mike D So you don't have to share with your mom any more. You pu55y a55 nerd. Shove your red k up that biatches a55 too. - apples check it out, it's a fish - Mike D 
Dildo of heterosexual tranny footjobs. - P.K Dionysus Outta green paint....So go ahead and throw on this cape ! - BERNIE'S CORNER Outta green paint.... - BERNIE'S CORNER No Message - MDPopescu 15,000 Good Job. - Vegemil 
No Message - BERNIE'S CORNER Some fruit for a fruit - The Hammer lol - -jose- Cheers mate - Chrismart I guess I don’t green often enough unless it’s green’n Bob lol. - BERNIE'S CORNER 
Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - Just Now Hit Me Gay and Lesbian Pride - Just Now Hit Me Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - Just Now Hit Me Gay and Lesbian Pride - Just Now Hit Me Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - Just Now Hit Me 
Gay and Lesbian Pride - PlasterWraps Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - punchr Gay and Lesbian Pride - boxz Alzheimer's - Crohn's & Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - jas 
Default

So Wiener thinks this will reduce the number of time people hide their HIV positive status from their partner? Hm I don't think that would work. But those quick to label this as "feelings over lives" are misrepresenting the purpose of the law.

Anyway this is much different than drug use, which would probably go down if it were decriminalized. Plus, it isn't a victimless crime like drug use. I would keep it as a felony.

Eff Pandas brings up a good point. I wonder how easy it even is to identify the source of the infection.

Last edited by BrometheusBob.; 06-05-2017 at 06:32 PM.
BrometheusBob. is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 06:27 PM #10
Motorcity Cobra Motorcity Cobra is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 21,838
Quoted: 16704 Post(s)
Rep Power: 55
Motorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond reputeMotorcity Cobra has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,000,001,419,322.12
Bank: 938,109,407,015,573,120.00
Total Points: 939,109,407,016,992,384.00
always dropping hot boxing news first - Sup Do your thang m8 - Canelo and GGG for exposing (((them))) - Sup Nobody cared when you were banned because nobody likes you - Arthur Dayne Good effort!!! - MDPopescu 
Rock on brother - siablo14 splitting your mommy clean in two - //// clown - apples Because you can't keep our white dlcks out of your mouth - !nternation Thanks for the help - 1bad65 
for keeping us informed...thanks for your efforts - jazluvr to celebrate the life of Roy Hargrove - jazluvr 
Default

Maybe because HIV isn't a fatal disease anymore. HIV is like having herpes. A STD that won't kill you but you'll have for the rest of your life. I would be interested to find out how many people have been convicted of this crime over the last 20 years. Probably not a lot.
Motorcity Cobra is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
california, decriminalize, disease, fatal, giving

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:30 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.