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Old 12-12-2020, 04:52 PM #51
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Default Dempsey a star but not great fighter

Jack Dempsey was the epitome of a star. Maybe the biggest of the 1920s. I love the guy hes legendary. He was exciting and talented in a dynamic way fast fearless and firery. Ruggedly handsome and powerful with great public relations behind him. He was a good fighter maybe very good but definitely was not great. He came along in an era when he did not have to fight the best black fighters. The black contenders were basically shutout of Contending for the title. Had he dominated and beat Sharkey and Tunney maybe theres a debate. But that wasn't the case. Other then the knockout when Sharky wasn't looking and a knockdown vs Tunney he was out boxed by both. Whipped thoroughly by Tunney twice a very good blowup light heavy.
Dempsey never beat a great or even a very good fighter but he's an exciting figure in sports nonetheless and fun to hear and read about.
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Jack Dempsey was the epitome of a star. Maybe the biggest of the 1920s. I love the guy hes legendary. He was exciting and talented in a dynamic way fast fearless and firery. Ruggedly handsome and powerful with great public relations behind him. He was a good fighter maybe very good but definitely was not great. He came along in an era when he did not have to fight the best black fighters. The black contenders were basically shutout of Contending for the title. Had he dominated and beat Sharkey and Tunney maybe theres a debate. But that wasn't the case. Other then the knockout when Sharky wasn't looking and a knockdown vs Tunney he was out boxed by both. Whipped thoroughly by Tunney twice a very good blowup light heavy.
Dempsey never beat a great or even a very good fighter but he's an exciting figure in sports nonetheless and fun to hear and read about.
I don't rate Dempsey as high as many here, but I disagree he never beat any very good fighters. The Sharkey win is a win no matter what we think. Jack got the W. We can argue semantics all day, but it doesn't change the record. Gibbons is another very good win and to a tad bit lesser extent Firpo and Carpentier. My problem has always been more about who he didn't fight rather that who he did. That said, Dempsey was a great champion and an ATG in my book. I just don't rate him as high an ATG as others do.
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