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  • #11
    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
    Why Do Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers?

    One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink tend to die sooner than those who do

    By John Cloud Monday, Aug. 30, 2010


    One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.

    But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that — for reasons that aren't entirely clear — abstaining from alcohol does tend to increase one's risk of dying, even when you exclude former problem drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers.


    Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.


    sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the abstainers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.



    These are remarkable statistics. Even though heavy drinking is associated with higher risk for cirrhosis and several types of cancer (particularly cancers in the mouth and esophagus), heavy drinkers are less likely to die than people who don't drink, even if they never had a problem with alcohol. One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.







    Juggs is right
    My mom was an alcoholic and I always said it would kill her
    She drank everyday
    Fxckin cancer took her

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    • #12
      some were already addicted, the others are just sheep.

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      • #13
        alcohol is very addictive. ive seen people with the shakes first hand. a friend's father in high school needed booze just to start his day. i drove him to the doctor one morning [this guy was a mess and got a concussion the night before falling down in the street,] and saw his hands shaking. i realized that this was probably the only time i'd seen him sober, and it really left an impression. i had been at that house during all hours of the day and night, and evidently i'd never seen him sober. didn't really understand what addiction or alcoholism was, at least not on that level.

        you don't get the shakes when you stop smoking weed. this guy was shaking to the point that i would notice it with my eyes on the road.


        marijuana might have some slight component of psychological addiction, and from first hand experience i know that stopping smoking pot cold turkey makes it tough to sleep for some people, but it is not a drug on which you become dependent.



        going back to my hood friends, another friend's father lived on the couch of the dude i took to the hospital. this guy was in his 50's and could legit pass for 80. walked with a cane, too beat up to work, lived on state assistance. took about 3-5 seconds to process and respond to a simple question or hello. last i heard he qualified for subsidized nursing home care. hope he's still alive.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Shaolin Sword View Post
          Ever since I moved to the West Coast from NY I have discovered the amazing marijuana plant.

          Smoking weed is looked down upon in NY and in the Eastcoast in general so I always drank instead. I was always a very quiet, shy kid and I drank casually to be more social but I hated it. Yes, it made me more open socially but the feeling of being drunk is disgusting to me. And being hungover is equally as disgusting.

          Weed is an amazing plant. It makes everything you do 100 times more enjoyable. And the best part is that it's medicine! I love that when you buy it legally you know exactly what strain you are getting and what the THC to CBD content is compared to buying on the streets not knowing what you have. I also love that you can have it delivered right to your door in 30 minutes!
          First of all, your thread title should say "in california" because it sure isn't legal everywhere for you to make a ludicrous statement like that.

          Second, what does one have to do with the other? They aren't alternatives for each other unless you want them to be. Completely differnent experiences and alcohol is a depressant and Cannabis isn't.

          I don't get the purpose of this thread other than to blow hot air.

          You don't really say anything here, you just spew out random "facts" that are common knowledge at this point, and then allude to the fact that you are probably a kid if you care about being "looked down on", never heard a man concerned with what others think about how he lives his life.

          This sounds like a random rant from some kid who just move here and needs to express his euphoria. This isn't some crazy secret, Californians aren't experiencing anything groundbreaking, this post could have been, and shoulda been thrown into this thread.


          http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=584045

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          • #15
            Marijuana destroys your mind.

            I don't know anyone who used it long term that isn't fried by it.

            Ranging from just being grumpy and absent minded to paranoid to being locked up and on medication for imagining people are stabbing them though the walls.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Furn View Post
              Marijuana destroys your mind.

              I don't know anyone who used it long term that isn't fried by it.

              Ranging from just being grumpy and absent minded to paranoid to being locked up and on medication for imagining people are stabbing them though the walls.
              That sound like some strong fxckin green




              Where can I get it
              My stuff just gets me stoned
              Aint nobody locked up and on medication because of a spliff
              That's mental health

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Mc,Lovin View Post
                That sound like some strong fxckin green




                Where can I get it
                My stuff just gets me stoned
                Aint nobody locked up and on medication because of a spliff
                That's mental health
                Yeah but he is fine now, as soon as he stopped smoking he got better.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Furn View Post
                  Yeah but he is fine now, as soon as he stopped smoking he got better.
                  Nothing to do with actually treating his mental health then no?
                  Just told him don't smoke then let him out???

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                  • #19
                    because alcohol and marijuana both gives out a different feeling. some people prefer being drunk over high, etc.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Mc,Lovin View Post
                      Nothing to do with actually treating his mental health then no?
                      Just told him don't smoke then let him out???
                      No they treated him inside he got better (no mull inside), went out, smoked, went crazy again (still taking meds and getting treatment). Went back in, same pattern 3 times. Then eventually came out and didn't smoke and was fine. Stopped the medication and stayed fine going on 15 years now.

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