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Nunes bodybags Cyborg
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i always said nunes has the better hands but i didnt know it was gonna end that way and that quick too! i think cyborg has reached her limits. her size and physical strength over a lot of the other girls is one of the biggest advantage she has but now the skill level from the other girls has made up for that. if you look at some of cyborg's previous fights, she was getting caught flush on already but her size got her thru it. but you can only take one too many before you go down and that's what happened to her.
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Originally posted by Blond Beast View PostI picked Nunes to KO Cyborg and I’m not surprised at all. She did it better than I even expected. Standing I knew she’d kill her. On the ground I don’t know. But I knew Cyborg wouldn’t go to ground until she had too. Nunes was never going to be afraid, nobody wins just by being heavier at the top level. They aren’t on the same level boxing wise. Even Rousey stayed on her feet. I have no problem any boxing fan having Cyborg winning somehow, but if u thought she’d destroy Nunes like what happened to her u need give ur head a shake. I’m not bragging, I just want the others to come out and say that they saw it like I did. I didn’t get it right, most just got it wrong. Still Cyborg was only -250 so is anything that shocking in ufc?
No...clearly this was a gameplan issue, like Jacobs/Quillin. Cris came in there expecting Nunes to box safe and be afraid of her like all the rest, and when Nunes threw caution to the wind, Cris had no answer for it but to throw back and hope she landed something.
It'd be like Pipino Cuevas KO'ng Julio Caesar Chavez. As good as Cuevas was, that outcome would never be expected by anyone.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostI called a Cyborg win, because there's frankly no reason she should have lost. Cyborg beat Holly Holm - a CHAMPION BOXER and legit, accurate striker - in the standup game. Then proceeded to get clapped by Amanda Nunes throwing nothing but haymakers.
No...clearly this was a gameplan issue, like Jacobs/Quillin. Cris came in there expecting Nunes to box safe and be afraid of her like all the rest, and when Nunes threw caution to the wind, Cris had no answer for it but to throw back and hope she landed something.
It'd be like Pipino Cuevas KO'ng Julio Caesar Chavez. As good as Cuevas was, that outcome would never be expected by anyone.
Anyone who thought Nunes would be scared or box safe misread her. Why do the same thing that everyone else did to lose? She’s an undefeated champ. She was always going to try and land early and hard to get that respect. She did land, and Cyborg tried to trade with her. Didn’t work out at all. I think Nunes is by far the more dynamic puncher. They underestimated Nunes. They overhyped Cyborg. I mean yeah now that they know, maybe they go for the takedown or whatever. But this was always going to be the outcome if they stood and traded in this fight. Im just not surprised in the least. If ur best attribute is being heavier than everyone, not a good sign. Means little against the best. If Cyborg is that good she really worked hard at doing her worst. I believed more in Nunes is all I guess.
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Originally posted by Blond Beast View PostAnyone who thought Nunes would be scared or box safe misread her. Why do the same thing that everyone else did to lose?
"Lights Out" expected Calslappy to come in there and play it safe because he was a feared fighter at the time.
Gameplan. You don't do what they expect you to do, unexpected things happen.
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Originally posted by revelated View PostAnother example: Calzaghe/Lacy.
"Lights Out" expected Calslappy to come in there and play it safe because he was a feared fighter at the time.
Gameplan. You don't do what they expect you to do, unexpected things happen.
I would have accepted the name “Slappy/Sloppy Joe Calzaghe” as well. If u fight a top level guy/girl and ur gameplan is based on someone being afraid of you? Then u deserve what’s coming. The buck stops eventually. Always someone tougher. If u think everyone’s going to fight u scared then u haven’t fought anyone. I get it wrong a lot too. I was a huge Tyson fan as a kid like most. The day after Tyson beat Spinks my old man told me a guy named Evander Holyfield would beat Tyson one day. If u can’t stand toe to toe and win, then u had no business expecting them to be scared.
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Originally posted by Blond Beast View PostI would have accepted the name “Slappy/Sloppy Joe Calzaghe” as well. If u fight a top level guy/girl and ur gameplan is based on someone being afraid of you? Then u deserve what’s coming. The buck stops eventually. Always someone tougher. If u think everyone’s going to fight u scared then u haven’t fought anyone. I get it wrong a lot too. I was a huge Tyson fan as a kid like most. The day after Tyson beat Spinks my old man told me a guy named Evander Holyfield would beat Tyson one day. If u can’t stand toe to toe and win, then u had no business expecting them to be scared.
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