EDDIE HEARN ADMITS ANTHONY JOSHUA DID NOT SIGN CONTRACt

[TheBigLug]

He owns all promotional ventures of Anthony joshua. Unless it's absolutely necessary then Hearn would sign every contract like this on Joshua's behalf...

Pretty standard. Eddie hearns signature on that contract is just as legally enforceable as Joshua's due to him being his promoter so... Don't really see the issue here.

Not true at all!

These fighters operate as self employed or as their own business entity. They are not employed by Hearn, he says himself that they are his clients, which means he's working for them. They simply have a contract with Hearn to handle their promotion and shows. He is working for them. similar to how a music artist has a PR agency that take care of that, and a company like Coda or The Agency Group handling their concerts.

At the end of the day, if AJ is going to fight, his name has to be on the contract because he is not an employee of anybody.

You can sign a promotional deal with someone, but it's not really any different to a company having a 2 year contract with UPS to handle their deliveries. It's just a contract for a service, that's all. would UPS start signing contracts on behalf of the other company? no.

You're incredibly misinformed on this one and have it all back to front.

[Accolade]

You're taking things so literal.

When 3 people say the same thing and have a functional understanding of the English language, I tend to take what they say literally. When a person like Shelly Finkel disputes that claim, I tend to trust their insight over that of people on a boxing forum filled with trolls.

[Larry the boss]

That doesn't go to Finkel or wilder though.. that's Anthony joshua agreeing to fight at the event against the named opponent.

That is an agreement between Joshua and the promoter of the event and any other signature would be if he may have to sign something for a network or a sanctioning body.

Anthony joshuas signature goes to matchroom

So you are referring to the April date?

[yammy25]

Not true at all!

These fighters operate as self employed or as their own business entity. They are not employed by Hearn. They simply have a contract with Hearn to handle their promotion and shows. He is working for them. similar to how a music artist has a PR agency that take care of that, and a company like Coda or The Agency Group handling their concerts.

At the end of the day, if AJ is going to fight, his name has to be on the contract because he is not an employee of anybody.

You're incredibly misinformed on this one.

Hearn owns all promotional rights of Anthony joshua for the next three years.

Hearn stated today when it was brought up by thaboxongvoice that Hearn says for AJ and always has done.

If there was a problem with that.. I'm sure it would have been brought up by somebody by now.

Very simple.. 1 contract between Joshua and matchroom outlining their terms for the event.
1 contract between matchroom and wilder outlining their terms for the event.
There isn't a contract sent to wilder with Joshua's name on it. Wilders agreement is with the promoter.. matchroom. Not AJ

[sicko]

Respect to the great UK fans but it is funny how you guys BOO Eddie every time he is shown on the Big Screen at a AJ fight BUT defend him and his Nonsense on the Internet

Eddie is a Promoter, being Manipulative and a good liar is a required to be a good promoter

[yammy25]

So you are referring to the April date?

Yes.. that date would be handled if all agreed by matchroom. Hearn owns all promotional rights over Anthony joshua.. he signs for Anthony joshua when it comes to agreements with other parties .

Obviously Anthony joshua signs his own contract with matchroom.. that doesn't go to Finkel or wilder.

[yammy25]

When 3 people say the same thing and have a functional understanding of the English language, I tend to take what they say literally. When a person like Shelly Finkel disputes that claim, I tend to trust their insight over that of people on a boxing forum filled with trolls.

Even when it contradicts what an actual party agreement is. At what point is Wilders agreement with Joshua?

Wilders contract is with the promoter of the event.. matchroom. So he gets hearns signature. He gets that because the contract between AJ and matchroom has been signed by AJ.

At no point is there a contract that is physically signed by both wilder and AJ. As I stated.. you're taking everything too literal when as I've mentioned.. hearns signature is the one necessary for wilder and the event promoters contract to be binding.

[TheBigLug]

Hearn owns all promotional rights of Anthony joshua for the next three years.

Hearn stated today when it was brought up by thaboxongvoice that Hearn says for AJ and always has done.

If there was a problem with that.. I'm sure it would have been brought up by somebody by now.

Very simple.. 1 contract between Joshua and matchroom outlining their terms for the event.
1 contract between matchroom and wilder outlining their terms for the event.
There isn't a contract sent to wilder with Joshua's name on it. Wilders agreement is with the promoter.. matchroom. Not AJ

But you're missing the point. You can enter a business deal with someone to give them rights to operate something for you for x amount of years, it doesn't mean they own your business. It's just a contract for a service but you can't break it because it's legally binding. But you don't belong to them.

A boxer isn't an employee, they operate as their own entity in terms of a legal business structure and they have contracts with promotors and managers (other companies) that provide a service for them.

If you want to fight AJ, you need his signature on the contract because legally he is operating as a business or self employed. It's that simple.

Go watch an interview with Hearn about the business model of the PPV shows, he says "the fighter owns the show". those exact words. Hearn just organises & runs it on behalf of them, legally.

It doesn't matter how it looks from the outside, the legal side of it is vastly different.

[yammy25]

But you're missing the point. You can enter a business deal with someone to give them rights to operate something for you for x amount of years, it doesn't mean they own your business. It's just a contract for a service but you can't break it because it's legally binding. But you don't belong to them.

A boxer isn't an employee, they operate as their own entity in terms of a legal business structure and they have contracts with promotors and managers (other companies) that provide a service for them.

If you want to fight AJ, you need his signature on the contract because legally he is operating as a business or self employed. It's that simple.

Go watch an interview with Hearn about the business model of the PPV shows, he says "the fighter owns the show". those exact words. Hearn just organises & runs it on behalf of them, legally.

It doesn't matter how it looks from the outside, the legal side of it is vastly different.

Wilders contract is not with AJ.. it's with the promoter of the event.

Hearn is the promoter of the event.
Wilder has a contract signed by Hearn on behalf of matchroom outlining the terms agreed for that fight. It isn't AJ paying him . It's matchroom!!

Hearn has a contract signed by AJ and himself outlining their terms for that event .

At what point does wilder have any financial dealings with AJ In the contract for April?

Anthony joshuas contract is for 80% of all revenue. The full revenue generated after the event before any splits is in the hands of matchroom who take their twenty percent and provide AJ with his 80.

Wilders guarantee would be held in escrow.. provided by matchroom with proof of such provided before the event.

Wilder never sees AJ's signature.. because A. He doesn't need to and B. Because he receives no financial amount from AJ directly .

I don't know what else to say to explain this to you.

[TheBigLug]

Wilders contract is not with AJ.. it's with the promoter of the event.

Hearn is the promoter of the event.
Wilder has a contract signed by Hearn on behalf of matchroom outlining the terms agreed for that fight. It isn't AJ paying him . It's matchroom!!

Hearn has a contract signed by AJ and himself outlining their terms for that event .

At what point does wilder have any financial dealings with AJ In the contract for April?

Anthony joshuas contract is for 80% of all revenue. The full revenue generated after the event before any splits is in the hands of matchroom who take their twenty percent and provide AJ with his 80.

Wilders guarantee would be held in escrow.. provided by matchroom with proof of such provided before the event.

Wilder never sees AJ's signature.. because A. He doesn't need to and B. Because he receives no financial amount from AJ directly .

I don't know what else to say to explain this to you.

Good lord you are stupid. I've explained legally why a fighters name needs to be on a contract.

I can't even be bothered anym....