Ray Leonard says to overcome Mayweather shoulder roll, hit the shoulder..you agree?

[John Barron]

you ain't got nothin else to hit 95% of the time anyway sure, why the hell not lol.

[BigAlexSand]

Like attacking the body, it will work for the later rounds but like said by many it would leave you open for the quickest right straight in the game. And who is to say Floyd would switch stance and be just as good defensively as a south paw. If Mayweather could also work as a south paw, it won't do much!

[wizard king]

If you think SRL can beat Floyd fine but please don't let that be your reason. You do know that Mayweather Jr is light years better than his father was right?

Right?

I really don't give a dam who beats who or who is better then who.

[A.K.A]

Right hooks to the left shoulder and body. You have to hit him wherever you can and those punches would be easiest to land cleanly. Doesn't mean you'd win and you may get countered by the left hook, but they're the only hard shots you can land on him.

[Mike Haynes]

Hit him hard/long enough on that arm/shoulder and the roll will change, trust me. Other things will open up after that left arm numbs out a bit...can't throw right hands all night.

[ADP02]

Ray doesn't know how to beat him. Floyd may never have fought someone like leonard, but I know for sure Leonard never fought anyone like Floyd. I think Leonard could catch Floyd with the right hand to the body then up top like he did hagler a few times but Floyd throws that right uppercut when u get in close so it might stop that. Because of the styles in their best days, Leonard vs mayweather jr is probably a draw or a slight edge to floyd. They both moved and avoided contact very well. It's just so hard to score rounds against Floyd because his clean shots and accuracy really impress judges. His opponents head stays snapping back while u can barely see when Floyd gets hit clean.

That would be the key .... getting Floyd to say sign on the dotted line ..... lol!

SRL would have used more than one punch (plan) to attack and beat Floyd.

Possibly what SRL meant is the opponent should also hit what is available. Some fighters would try to hit Floyd's head even though it was hard to do when using the shoulder roll. Those who are taller and have a longer reach than Floyd would have had a better chance at going over the shoulder roll. Perhaps SRL would have done that being that he is taller and has the reach advantage.

I can see SRL zeroing in on that shoulder and hitting it hard to the point that Floyd would be reluctant to stay in that position all night long. SRL had the reach, speed, movement and athleticism that most who fought Floyd never did. It would be hard for Floyd to counter effectively when using the shoulder roll against SRL if all SRL did the first few rounds was punch Floyd's shoulder.

Again, SRL would have deployed various attacks that would have caused problems for Floyd. You can't just think that the fight would be just about punching the shoulder.

[PAC-BOY]

Headbutt him! Then try to hug him and look away with your arms down as you walk backwards. oh been done already!

[illmaticfighter]

the thing about that is your not scoring anything as far as points,your losing rounds over and over while your hitting his shoulders.

plus floyd can fight with different defensive styles ala judah fight its really not something i can see being used effectively.

[ADP02]

the thing about that is your not scoring anything as far as points,your losing rounds over and over while your hitting his shoulders.

plus floyd can fight with different defensive styles ala judah fight its really not something i can see being used effectively.

You really think that all SRL would do is hit Floyd on the shoulder all night long?

SRL would do it mostly in the early rounds because its there to be hit. Also, it can hurt or deteriorate Floyd's shoulder .... and with SRL's reach and speed, Floyd would have a hard time hitting back because SRL would already be out of reach by the time Floyd can get out of that shoulder roll position to try to hit SRL.

Also, one must presume that SRL would be "hitting the shoulder" from the outside. So Floyd would be need to come out of the shoulder roll stance to try to hit SRL. That is when SRL would be in position to counter Floyd.

SRL would use that tactic to set up his offense later in the fight.

[The Big Dunn]

You really think that all SRL would do is hit Floyd on the shoulder all night long?

SRL would do it mostly in the early rounds because its there to be hit. Also, it can hurt or deteriorate Floyd's shoulder .... and with SRL's reach and speed, Floyd would have a hard time hitting back because SRL would already be out of reach by the time Floyd can get out of that shoulder roll position to try to hit SRL.

Also, one must presume that SRL would be "hitting the shoulder" from the outside. So Floyd would be need to come out of the shoulder roll stance to try to hit SRL. That is when SRL would be in position to counter Floyd.

SRL would use that tactic to set up his offense later in the fight.

so roberto duran, who has a 66 in reach to SRL's 74 in reach could hit him enough to score but floyd, whose reach is 72, and is faster than DUran, couldn't?

Would you like to rethink your position?