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  • #61
    Originally posted by Lopez_Boxing View Post
    Got cha. What im looking at has Aj as champ but the rankings havent been updated
    To be fair, rankings not a part of the 4 organisations (TBRB & The Ring) don't have him ranked higher than #3 - Which is a bit unfair considering he is a 2x Unified HW Champ.

    Really, you were right. I was just being really pedantic.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post
      To be fair, rankings not a part of the 4 organisations (TBRB & The Ring) don't have him ranked higher than #3 - Which is a bit unfair considering he is a 2x Unified HW Champ.

      Really, you were right. I was just being really pedantic.
      Respect. I had to google pedantic though. Lmao

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      • #63
        IMO, he isn’t top three and only got there because he beat Joshua. He had to be ranked higher than Joshua after that win.

        Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View Post
        So does that mean he was always a top 3 HW and he only needed a platform to perform?

        Or that everyone has inflated Ruiz's abilities so much and they are all completely wrong?

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        • #64
          Because Joshua’s team lowballs everyone.

          It’s why Wilder and Fury haven’t fought him, it’s why Dillian Whyte turned down a rematch, it’s why Ortiz fought Wilder instead of Joshua and it’s why Ruiz has to hold out on the rematch until he was paid more.

          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
          Ruiz is clearly more skilled than Wilder. Wilder was getting outboxed by Szpilka FFS.

          Let's not forget Fury chose to fight Wilder for 7 mil instead of a mega fight with Joshua. Doesn't take a genius to know why.

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          • #65
            He's not excused for it, it's gone down in history, it's forever on film that the roided up bodybuilder got destroyed by one of the fatest boxers ever seen on his US debut, it's humiliating but so glorious.

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            • #66
              Excused? Like who? He showed great character to come back from defeat in an immediate rematch but he should have never lost in the first place.

              He showed clear weaknesses that needs to be addressed if he is to beat Wilder and Fury etc.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                Because Joshua’s team lowballs everyone.

                It’s why Wilder and Fury haven’t fought him, it’s why Dillian Whyte turned down a rematch, it’s why Ortiz fought Wilder instead of Joshua and it’s why Ruiz has to hold out on the rematch until he was paid more.
                Let's say your fantasy world is true and Joshua lowballs. You'd still take the easier fight for more money, if you actually thought it was easier. Stop your nonsense.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Heavyshake View Post
                  He's not excused for it, it's gone down in history, it's forever on film that the roided up bodybuilder got destroyed by one of the fatest boxers ever seen on his US debut, it's humiliating but so glorious.
                  and is still a two time unified Heavyweight Champion of the World.

                  There are no other 2x Unified HW Champs in the HW Division. Joshua stands alone, above all others, in that respect.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr View Post
                    It seems like everyone is back on Joshua’s d!ck after his win over Ruiz.

                    Why? Why is Joshua excused for losing to a guy who:

                    ...Wasn’t ranked in the top 10 by anyone before he beat Joshua?

                    ...se biggest win prior to Joshua was a toss up between Liakvovich or Dimitrenko

                    ... was dropped by Top Rank a few fights ago

                    ... has had a long history with not being in shape

                    I couldn’t even imagine the reaction of Wilder or Fury lost to an unranked heavyweight. They would never be forgiven.
                    It's because people are losers who love to be right and never admit they're wrong.

                    Some of the same people who got laughed at feel like the got the final laugh.

                    Like some of these guys are like...oh, joshua just got caught and any boxer can get caught...

                    But in breath in the past will use a KD to justify their position on a boxers worth. Funny how it works huh?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                      Let's say your fantasy world is true and Joshua lowballs. You'd still take the easier fight for more money, if you actually thought it was easier. Stop your nonsense.
                      I have to agree with this.

                      If Wilder believes that he is the 'Baddest Man on the Planet" why won't he fight Joshua for $100m?

                      I can understand why Fury hasn't fought Joshua before his ESPN 4-fight deal ends but Wilder has no excuse other than not knowing what Joshua earns.

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