joe louis, but it's hard to ignore an undefeated marciano as well imo. say what you want the man was 49-0.
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Ali or Louis who was the greatest Heavy Weight of all time??
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My avatar and signature answers this question for me.
19 successful title defenses, 25 championship fights, not including fights for the NABF title, if I had included it, he would have been involved in over 30 heavyweight title fights.
Came out on top in what many consider to be the golden era of heavyweights.
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Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT View PostAli didn't have charisma he was a loud annoying son of a *****. Joe was a better person and much better fighter. If he ran his mouth like Ali he would of been more popular. But he got it done better then any other heavy ever in the ring
With all due respect, I disagree with this whole post. First, Ali exuded charisma and still does to this day. As loud as he was, I never got the sense that he didn't entirely believe in himself, even when he was putting on an act. The guy was great. Second, if Joe Louis had run his mouth like Ali in the 30's and 40's he would have been kicked to the curb by much of white America. Louis, while a true and real person, followed a strict guidline of rules so he could and would remain popular with all Americans. And it worked. Not only did blacks love him, but whites did too. I would bet both my arms that wouldn't have been the case had Joe had Ali's personality back then.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostWith all due respect, I disagree with this whole post. First, Ali exuded charisma and still does to this day. As loud as he was, I never got the sense that he didn't entirely believe in himself, even when he was putting on an act. The guy was great. Second, if Joe Louis had run his mouth like Ali in the 30's and 40's he would have been kicked to the curb by much of white America. Louis, while a true and real person, followed a strict guidline of rules so he could and would remain popular with all Americans. And it worked. Not only did blacks love him, but whites did too. I would bet both my arms that wouldn't have been the case had Joe had Ali's personality back then.
To answer the threadstarters question i would go with Ali. Louis opened the door for Ali and it never closed since. Without Louis there would have been no Ali i'm sure of that. Well, not the Ali we all knew and loved, but the man changed Boxing forever, although Louis had the world watching when he beat Schmeling.
Too close to call really as both men have many pro's going for themselves. I'm only going with Ali as i know his career a lot better then i do of Joe's.
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Originally posted by luckylefty731 View PostAnyone have their pick and please state your reason why you chose who you did........Lefty
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Ali beat men in gorilla suits, Louis never did. Rocky never did either. Louis was ko'd in his prime Ali wasn't. Rocky's comp and his record do not dare give me enough evidence to call him the best heavy ever. Rocky was a fine fighter. Louis was too. Both were great actually. Ali's comp is so far superior to any heavyweight that this thread should be a thread for who is second. Kidding. Ali is the best fighter ever. He never came close to taking a 10 count, and his comp and wins over 2 boogey men in Liston and Foreman alone prove the man's legend. The contenders Ali faced could probably beat some heavies today.
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Joe Louis Barrow is the greatest heavyweight champion of all time period. No disrespect to Ali... Ali was great but not the greatest...
RIP Joe
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Rocky was a great boxer but compare his resume to Ali’s. Ali did the unthinkable at times, greatest boxer.People saying Rocky was undefeated and pride him on that being undefeated in a weak era are stupid. . If there was to be another undefeated HW would that diminish Rocky legacy
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Originally posted by Guled View PostRocky was a great boxer but compare his resume to Ali’s. Ali did the unthinkable at times, greatest boxer.People saying Rocky was undefeated and pride him on that being undefeated in a weak era are stupid. . If there was to be another undefeated HW would that diminish Rocky legacy
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