F Showtime and F HBO , get boxing out of premium cable
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostProbably the same thing here. I was at a Hooters and they didn't have it and I was shocked. They all have the PPV's but that is different.
IMO this sucks because sometimes I like to leave the house and go to a bar and watch the fights. WIth so many fights on the apps that isn't possible.
I will try to get an answer.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostThey aren't selling ads they're a subscription based service. The ratings aren't as important as the subs. Half of Showtime subs say boxing is important ti them according to a survey Espinoza cites
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostWishful thinking on Arum’s part.
According to Espinoza, half of their new subscribers like boxing and 30% signed up for specifically for that reason. That’s what drives them to increase their budget. Showtime has about 30 million subs (half of HBO’s) and are still generating between 500k-1m viewers per fight. That is impressive. It’s why Espinoza got a promotion and a far bigger budget going forward.
Theres simply no way to back up those figures when used in that sentence. How can you tell that half of your new subs like boxing if you didnt get a 100% answer rate to the very question you never asked? with 50 % of that 100% saying having to say yes.
What method and what data is there , used by showtime to show that 30% signed up specifically for boxing?
absolute rubbish
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Originally posted by yammy25 View Postwhat empirical data is there to show this? showtime didnt send surveys out at the time of or after subscription, and if they did.. no company in the world gets more than a 15/20% answer submission rate.
Theres simply no way to back up those figures when used in that sentence. How can you tell that half of your new subs like boxing if you didnt get a 100% answer rate to the very question you never asked? with 50 % of that 100% saying having to say yes.
What method and what data is there , used by showtime to show that 30% signed up specifically for boxing?
absolute rubbish
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Bitter Bob! It's so sad and pathetic. What a pity? In any case, I just so happen to disagree with Arum. Showtime's sports programming budget has never been the size of HBO's sports programming budget.
Showtime on average typically spent about a third of what HBO was spending on boxing. Besides, as long as Money May remains relevant Showtime isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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