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  • Originally posted by revelated View Post
    Sure. So if someone like Floyd is pumping the jab in someone like Manny's face all night long for a 35% connect rate, while someone like Manny is flailing and missing punches all night long for a 19% connect rate, that's pretty decisive, right?

    I mean, by that methodology, it wouldn't matter how effective Manny happened to be in a single round. Which would make slo-mo videos useless. It's all about the final score...right?
    It is now. And it would be then. People can claim close fight, robbery, yada yada but at the end of the day, it comes down to three people's opinions and the winner wins and the loser loses and that's the way it is. At least with punch numbers, there is something concrete there unlike now where there's nothing.

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    • Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post
      It is now. And it would be then. People can claim close fight, robbery, yada yada but at the end of the day, it comes down to three people's opinions and the winner wins and the loser loses and that's the way it is. At least with punch numbers, there is something concrete there unlike now where there's nothing.
      Except that fighters who don't or can't jab, like David Lemieux and Errol Spence, would never win a fight.

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      • Whoever lands most punches in a round should win round, unless you are visibly hurt and in the trouble.
        So let's say GGG landed more punches than nelo in round 1. GGG should win that round . But if nelo visibly hurt GGG in that round which he didn't do in 12 rounds btw then at the discretion of judge they could award round to nelo on basis he hurt GGG or had him in trouble. But nelo never hurt GGG or had him in any trouble to dissuade GGG from throwing and landing more
        Last edited by hugh grant; 10-15-2018, 06:55 PM.

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        • Originally posted by revelated View Post
          Except that fighters who don't or can't jab, like David Lemieux and Errol Spence, would never win a fight.


          Well, if you haven't noticed, most of their wins come by KO anyway. And they tend to use their power to hurt their opponents and even if they don't knock them out, the opponents tend to throw fewer punches when hurt. So the outcome would be the same. Why are people so afraid of this system?

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          • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Whoever lands most punches in a round should win round, unless you are visibly hurt and in the trouble.
            So let's say GGG landed more punches than nelo in round 1. GGG should win that round . But if nelo visibly hurt GGG in that round which he didn't do in 12 rounds btw then at the discretion of judge they could award round to nelo on basis he hurt GGG or had him in trouble
            This is true but it's still no clear criteria.

            Most punches landed= Winner.

            Simple and easy.

            This is a sport-not rocket science. Most spectators are never going to try and break down a decision. Only us boxing dorks do that.

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            • the decision shouldn't be announced on fight night. all 3 judges convene for a slow motion screening of the fight. winner is announced Sunday like breaking news. counting punches in a live fight is almost always incorrect.

              Judges are allowed to score 10-10 rounds but NEVER do it. when a round is too close to call they basically end up saying "fxck it I'll give it to this guy..meh". Even rounds should occur more often.
              Last edited by Illmatic94; 10-15-2018, 07:06 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post
                This is true but it's still no clear criteria.

                Most punches landed= Winner.

                Simple and easy.

                This is a sport-not rocket science. Most spectators are never going to try and break down a decision. Only us boxing dorks do that.

                I think who wins each round should be revealed after every round.

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                • Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post


                  Well, if you haven't noticed, most of their wins come by KO anyway. And they tend to use their power to hurt their opponents and even if they don't knock them out, the opponents tend to throw fewer punches when hurt. So the outcome would be the same. Why are people so afraid of this system?
                  So basically, you got KO artists getting jabbed to death in the face repeatedly and a guy like Billy Juice Saunders who just stays on the backfoot jabbing...nullifying the potential to plant and throw a KO punch...and the other guy should just win because he landed 100 punches to the plodder's 10 power shots.

                  So a guy like Khan just needs to jab at range all night long en route to ATG status. Who cares that he took 50 body shots? He landed over 200 soft touch jabs so he should automatically win.

                  You seriously don't see a problem with this?

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                  • Originally posted by revelated View Post
                    So basically, you got KO artists getting jabbed to death in the face repeatedly and a guy like Billy Juice Saunders who just stays on the backfoot jabbing...nullifying the potential to plant and throw a KO punch...and the other guy should just win because he landed 100 punches to the plodder's 10 power shots.

                    So a guy like Khan just needs to jab at range all night long en route to ATG status. Who cares that he took 50 body shots? He landed over 200 soft touch jabs so he should automatically win.

                    You seriously don't see a problem with this?
                    You're jumping to the worst case scenario right off the bat. It's hard to take this seriously to be honest.

                    And KO artists would still do what they do-score KOs. As far the BJS comment, doesn't he continue to win in the same way under the current system? BJS hasn't faced a fighter yet who will close the gap and give him a fight yet. And yes, I think he deserves to win when he outlands his opponent. Makes perfect sense to me.

                    Well, if Khan eats fifty hard body shots, it's not likely that he's gonna land 200 anything. That will drop his punch output and honestly, landing 200 even soft jabs requires a hell of a lot of skill on the upper level. You know this, man.

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                    • number of punches thrown not even landed should determine the winner. that way we got both guys standing in opposite corners doing calzaghe taps to the air over and over

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